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Thanks guys. Remember, there’s power in numbers. Even a few of us asking questions in what appears to them in a coordinated way, will cause action.
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It's December 4th, more than 30 days since the last EC meeting (28-29 October), and AMA still hasn't posted minutes yet.
I cannot fathom what is so difficult about getting minutes posted promptly? |
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They have to be Transcribed, Sanitized, Doctored, Cleaned Up and Spell Checked!
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maybe this is not the correct place to post this or even ask about it.....I have not been posting in any of these forums much for awhile for various reasons...
But as a AMA member who will most likely NOT be renewing again.....I receive info like most members do, the latest is all the government yada yada the AMA claims is for our ( all of us hobbyists) benefit . Now most have been flying for decades, some well over a half century etc...many were not originally AMA members and some have been pretty religiously as it were. But I believe the AMA has changed so drastic from what it was and was meant to be, and is more now like a Government attached bureaucracy who speaks with forked tongue like all politicians do. There has been a ton of chatter and complaint using the term "drone" for everything. The Federal Government and many local and State Governments have made laws, statutes etc that are not for the hobbyist....AMA claims they are for the hobbyists and in many cases they have been, but of late , when all the hype started it appears the AMA is about the AMA. Latest info on the AMA Government blog seems to once again hint at anyone who is NOT a AMA member should not be allowed to fly and or be forced to have a license or such ( even the simple hobbyists as well as the now Commercial folks ) That implied talk has been spoken many times in many ways fro awhile now. AMA says -""These operators should be following Part 107, the alternative for legally flying if you’re not an AMA member."" They make mention of drone airborne collisions, BUT most are NOT hobbyists....They claim they want to strengthen 336 ( special rule for model aircraft ) However their implication is to strengthen it by forcing hobbyists to join the AMA ( seeing how in the states as far as i know is the only true CBO for the hobbyist ? ) the statement -"" Simply being a hobbyist or casual drone user does not qualify one as a 336 operator ""......REALLY ? When did the AMA become the LAW of the hobbyist ? According to them one has to follow their implied laws and rules or else ....something I believe they have been after all along and will if they continue be tied to the NEXT LAW Written for the 336- or Special Rule for Model aircraft . When did a hobbyist from 80 years ago or 8 years ago or 8 days ago NOT be a Hobbyist and not be covered by the Freedoms of the U.S and or the LAW of the Country which now is 336 or special rule for model aircraft ? According to the AMA with this statement -""It only applies to those who fly in accordance with the safety guidelines and within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization like AMA."" ------ so to the AMA the Law of the United states that protected and allowed people to fly model aircraft in the NAS , only allows those who paid Dues into their organization ? Appears the AMA is being more like the FAA with every passing day....I am all for safety and people being responsible and use common sense and not cause issues or danger to others and have respect for the NAS and all that is within it.....However, I do not need yet another created bureaucracy controlled by the Government to force me to pay them money because I want to fly a piece of foam......which btw they also consider and tagged as a "drone". 99.5% of all Hobbyists fly safely and most of them have long before any of this was ever suggested and the AMA now basically demanding they be the entity one must pay to enjoy a hobby is as absurd as the FAA demands of paying them to register our "toys" ( as some has referred them to be ). Also flying AMA guide they also mention AMA sanctioned locations ( fields ) and the CLUB Field mandate they also continue to imply . Not everyone wants to be part of a club or fly in their location....they basically are taking away the RIGHTS of the hobbyists, saying you can't fly in your own yard or own field or on your own for that matter , and you must pay them to use the NAS for your hobby or else you are breaking the law or I should say their implied laws and guides. I see this once very great boom in this hobby, soon coming to a screaming crash...and the biggest reason will be as most all hobbies have been regulated to death...fishing-hunting-biking-boating-climbing-etc etc etc..no matter what hobby man finds to enjoy you have a group who claims to be for the hobby and those who participate in it show up and then demand dues and payment only to regulate it down to a trickle of participants....... maybe that is what most people want...but in the end like all Government aided bureaucracies they lie-cheat and steal the funds you pay that is suppose to help and when the time comes for help, their response is we do not have the funds.....appears as this very thread is already questioning that subject.....perhaps as noted this is one reason why they do and have done what they have done.......think about it ?!! link to latest AMA Government blog- http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...rspace-safety/ |
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Last edited by HGhost; Dec 05, 2017 at 04:55 PM.
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Well, in defense of the AMA, they did also today announce some 2 Million Dollar gig they are involved in with Go-Fly and Boeing to create a craft that will carry a man 20 miles.......
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Should the AMA succeed, somehow, in their attempt to force membership. I will burn all my models and deliver the remains to the museum in Muncie for a new display. |
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I would suggest a group of members forming a coalition with which they can force the AMA, through the courts if necessary, to cough up the financials, minutes, etc for examination by independent experts. Yeah! Fat chance! |
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This latest grab for power has left me with no inclination to renew my AMA membership. They do not represent us. They beg to be included in the bureaucracies so they can demand our money. I was a member at a field in Florida that the financials had not been made public to members in 13 years, and anyone who brought it up and demanded to be shown was soon booted from the club. So tired of all the political crap being brought into a hobby I've enjoyed for 32 years.
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President signed into Law today we must Register with the FAA as that puts away the Taylor ruling to the contrary.....for those of us who was already registered we do not have to again until that registration expires...for those who got money back must re-register I am sure but they give a number for you to call to be sure
AMA has been trying to fill the roll of the FAA and wanted everyone to be forced to join the AMA and or be forced to take the Commercial part 107 test and get a license to be able to fly if they did not belong to the AMA...also wanted everyone forced to fly in clubs and AMA fields, is what it boiled down to the AMA wants to be the FAA when it comes to the sUAS....... and since the FAA controls the NAS and it is that entity I must answer to if anything occurs and the AMA does nothing anyway...I will Not be renewing my membership with them. I will just fly until someone comes along and makes me stop...and I will NOT pay some organization who is trying to steal my hobby in the guise of helping me......since the Model aircraft rule is in place and all i have to do is register ( had to anyway ), that is all I am going to do. Go fly and enjoy . |
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Yes...
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HGhost, I feel the same way about the AMA. In the past they were my CBO. Now , I don't feel the same commitment I used to have for the AMA. I did not renew my membership last year. I felt like they were not the same organization I signed up for. This is my personal thought on the AMA nothing more.
When I lived in the City I was a long time member of a field just outside of the city limits. When I retired, the Wife and I moved out into the country. We purchased a good amount of land and now I do what I want on that piece of land. Of course, within the limits of the Law that is. I will also fly my Models and Multicopters until some one with authority says I cannot. Until then I will fly and enjoy too. |
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Last edited by jinly; Dec 14, 2017 at 03:56 PM.
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