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Oct 13, 2017, 05:01 PM
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Help Identify this small free flight airplane


Hi everyone, this model was on my Father in laws work bench for many many years.

Heís gone now and Iíd like to complete it, but thereís no box, instructions, or markings, does anyone recognize it?

Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks Doug
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Oct 13, 2017, 06:14 PM
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Wings are very much in the Vic Smeed pattern.; anyone?
Oct 14, 2017, 01:36 PM
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Iíve been looking at looks of pictures and I wonder if this could be a Cessna 170, profile of the fuselage is close?
Oct 14, 2017, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dougpong1
Iíve been looking at looks of pictures and I wonder if this could be a Cessna 170, profile of the fuselage is close?
Not even close. Wing shape is all wrong and the fuselage, if it were scaled up, would be a tandem seat design instead of the 170's side by side. The only thing in common is is that it's a high wing cabin model.

With the shapes I'm seeing and the shape of the wing it's more likely to be a sport model of some sort. Clearly it was done from a kit given the printed "C" numbering on the parts in one picture.

With the wing span and the length of the nose it also has a decidely rubber model look to my eyes. The engine is tacked on the nose but it's way over size for this size of model and it would certainly result in a grossly nose heavy final product. On the other hand the length of the nose would work well for a sport style rubber model. Another reason I suspect it's intended for rubber power is the wing span. At that span it would only be suited for power flying with something like a TeeDee .010 or one of the very smallest of diesel engines. It's far too small even for a PeeWee .020 which would grossly over power it. And even then the PeeWee would cause it to be strongly nose heavy unless it were installed between the nose former and the next one back. All of this says rather firmly that it should be a rubber power model.

It'll be a long search but you may want to start browsing through the Sport Rubber FF listings at Outerzone for models with the same wingspan and see if anything jumps out.

On the other hand the design, to my eyes, also has a strong British style to it. But don't count on that other than as a last resort.
Oct 17, 2017, 08:06 PM
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Thanks for the input I’ve been searching with not luck, I’m try Outerzone next.
Doug
Oct 17, 2017, 10:36 PM
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Couple things I see. The plane has installed a PW .020. So i'm thinking its an 020 replica. Second, I've seen the style of printing on the parts, maybe a Micro Model or Cal Aero kit? A 70's or so replica of old time FF?

Need to find an old mag ad.

Norm
Oct 18, 2017, 01:53 PM
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I was thinking that it's the proper size for whatever it is because that style of construction would not scale up well to double or larger. Or at least it would not be a typical construction method for a larger version. By 50" and up all sticks is far more common, right?

I also wonder about the engine install. Sitting way out there it'll be strongly nose heavy. A proper option would have been to put it back between the first two formers. So that is what is making me suspect that it might be a rubber model. Or perhaps there was simply a mistake made by Doug's father on this part of the job.

Hey Doug, do the formers down the fuselage have holes in them and is there a hole through the sides back near the tail? It's hard to say due to the size of the pictures you posted. They come across as more like larger thumbnails without much detail.
Oct 19, 2017, 10:51 PM
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Formers are solid, hereís a few more pictures
Oct 20, 2017, 05:12 PM
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OK, it's clearly intended as a power model. Thanks for the added pictures Doug. I've still got no idea for you other than the stamped lettering on the cabin parts confirms that it's a kit. And apparently no one else has any ideas either. Sorry. Hopefully the new pictures helps someone make a connection.
Oct 22, 2017, 09:04 AM
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Thanks Bruce, Iíll continue searching the web, maybe Iíll get lucky!
Oct 22, 2017, 12:27 PM
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I searched .020 in the Outerzone a couple of days ago and turned up nothing. I've been trying to think of some different keywords. I thought Norm was on the right track with it possibly being an old kit for the .020 replica event, but at the same time there aren't too many old timers with that much sheet construction, so it would have been an odd ball choice for a kit specific to that event; At least to my mind. It seems more like one of those schoolyard sport models from the 50s. Whatever it is, I've never seen this group so stumped before.
Oct 22, 2017, 08:18 PM
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And if it's a British design then it may not be listed with ".020" in the description anyway. If anything it would list a comparable small size diesel.

It may not be a replica of a larger design either. Again Kiel Kraft, Veron and others over in "Jolly Ol'" had small sport models galore intended for cash starved school kids that could barely afford a small diesel and a half pint of fuel.
Oct 22, 2017, 09:03 PM
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Thanks for searching I went through the Outerzone also and didn’t find anything that close because of what you mentioned the sheet construction of the side of the fuselage.
What I did find was the M-3 Sterling Fairchild 24K 22 inch Wingspan kit, the fuselage seems to be the correct profile with the sheet sides, although the back windows and wing tips I have have a different shape, examining a kit I found on eBay shows a very similar style of build and marking the parts, So I think it’s a Sterling kit, which one exactly not sure.
Oct 22, 2017, 11:15 PM
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The way the training edge meets the fuse former and the forward slanting rear window makes me think of a Rearwin Speedster. Who's kit and what era,,,,,,,,,,,,. What is the fuselage length? That with the wingspan could be another search factor.
Oct 23, 2017, 10:11 PM
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I believe you’re correct, it appears to be the sterling Rearwin speedster, I looked at a bunch of images and plans and it’s the right size and construction. There’s a partial kit for sale on eBay with plans I may go for, it includes the vacuum formed parts I’m missing. Thanks everyone for you input, when it’s done I’ll post some pictures. Doug


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