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Sep 12, 2017, 10:11 AM
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Emlid introduces Edge - Advanced drone controller with HDMI video input and 5.8GHz da


Emlid, the company behind ingenious RTK GNSS receiver Reach RS, launches their new product - advanced drone controller Edge.


Emlid Edge is the first autopilot platform to feature an integrated HDMI input and video compression engine allowing it to capture Full HD video from an onboard camera such as GoPro or any other HDMI-capable camera. Video is streamed directly to the Ground Control Station over a long range 5.8 GHz Wi-Fi link.

Hardware Features
Dual-processor architecture
Quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 64-bit CPU inside Edge runs full-fledged Linux system with plenty of processing power which handles mission control, networking and media tasks. ARM Cortex-M3 co-processor runs real-time operating system for time sensitive tasks such as PWM output for motor control and RC signal decoding.

Temperature-stabilized dual IMU
Smart thermal design runs the processor cool and keeps the sensors warm. Integrated heating maintains constant temperature of IMU and barometer to ensure stable operation in cold climate. In hot weather the aluminum body efficiently dissipates heat from the CPU.

Thin and sleek aluminum case
Low-profile case and side-oriented connectors allow Edge to easily fit even in very compact drones. Threaded M2 mounting holes on the bottom offer a convenient and sturdy attachment to the frame.

UAVCAN accessories
Unlike many other drone controllers that use primitive busses to get data from external sensors Edge utilizes industrial grade CAN to exchange sensor data using UAVCAN protocol. It comes standard with UAVCAN GNSS module packed with multi-GNSS receiver, dual magnetometers and additional barometer.




Open source
Edge is positioned as a flexible platform for any drone project. With an open-source codebase for the autopilot and GCS it is easy to add your own extensions and modify. At its core Edge runs Ardupilot - the most fully-featured and robust open source autopilot software. It supports MAVLink protocol, sophisticated flight control algorithms and various flight modes. Support for Edge is added in a user friendly and cross platform QGroundControl GCS. Mission planning, firmware updates, vehicle configuration and video stream viewing - everything is handled through a single application.


Kit content
The kit consists of the Edge drone controller, external UAVCAN GNSS module, wide range power module based on Hall sensor and a long range 5.8 GHz Wi-Fi link.

The kits are available for pre-order for $699 and will be shipped in early November 2017.

Pre-order now on Emlid website
Last edited by dimaershov; Sep 12, 2017 at 10:30 AM.
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Sep 13, 2017, 12:30 AM
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Looks really promising! So when are the videos coming showing this in action (real world use)?

The 5.8GHz link, going by the images is USB-A only? so it doesn't actually connect to the controller via CAN and for the ground station can only connect to a laptop? or will it work with an OTG cable to use with a tablet?

Also are you planning on updating the Reach to work over CAN?
Sep 13, 2017, 08:09 AM
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Hi,

Videos coming soon!

5.8 WiFi is connected to the Edge over USB. CAN is primarily used for connection of external sensors such as GNSS, compass, barometer.
Sep 13, 2017, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dimaershov
Hi,

Videos coming soon!

5.8 WiFi is connected to the Edge over USB. CAN is primarily used for connection of external sensors such as GNSS, compass, barometer.
Ok, thanks, look forward to the videos. I'm already subscribed to your youtube/vimeo channels, but you guys have been a bit slack at putting up videos about your products

Also again, will the groundcontrol end be able to be used with an OTG cable to a tablet rather than having to use a laptop?
Sep 13, 2017, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienEclipse
The 5.8GHz link, going by the images is USB-A only? so it doesn't actually connect to the controller via CAN and for the ground station can only connect to a laptop? or will it work with an OTG cable to use with a tablet?
+1 on this front. This is a product I've been crying out for - FINALLY something that somewhat rivals the DJI Lightbridge platform. But will it easily integrate with tablet devices (iOS, Android and Windows).
Sep 14, 2017, 01:45 PM
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The Wi-Fi link requires drivers so more likely it will work with laptops. Mobile platforms should be tested.
Using internal Wi-Fi of your mobile device you still may connect to Edge on a short distance.
Nov 10, 2017, 08:32 PM
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2 months on since first announced and supposedly being released this month....

Is there any more news or information? mostly i'm looking for video of this product, setup, use/testing, independant review?
Would like to see that this product does actually exist and works as claimed.
Nov 15, 2017, 07:03 AM
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Really anticipating this, Very weird release method. Not heard of any beta testers so it may be a while before this thing is usable.
Release next month though!
It seems to be sold as a finished product unlike the Navio+ which is more buggy and developy.
Wondering what perhiperals will be available that support CAN with ardupilot.
So many questions.

The HD stream space is about to get really hot but sadly lacking much info.
FPV Blue - pricey becoming available now reports comming
CUAV Hack link - (based of solo code) cheap but no in depth reports and sold out everywhere
Dec 04, 2017, 11:40 PM
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Emlid Edge flight demo (3 min 1 sec)
Dec 13, 2017, 09:50 AM
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This product should be shipping within the next 9 days, so keep an eye out for those January reviews.
Dec 23, 2017, 02:32 AM
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Hello,

Santa is on his way: https://emlid.com/emlid-edge-stock/

He was at home early this month with a pre-release Edge unit. I am a Navio2-Raspberry Arducopter user since august 2016 and quite accustomed to Emlid products.

Technical data is available on the Emlid web site. I will share my "user" experience.

No problem with the flying side. Before installing the unit on my Gopro Hexacopter, I did a ground test.

First you need a Windows or Linux PC to run the special QGroundControl software. Configuration is quite easy, Wifi Edge unit is an access point, your computer connect to it with the other Wifi modem. Then you run the mandatory Arducopter configuration with QGroundControl.

Video streaming: Camera is connected to the Edge with micro hdmi cable, Edge can stream 1080 at 30fps. Groundstation PC performance is the key to quality. I have a Windows 10 Chuwi tablet, it is ok to visualise and point camera but as soon as there is movement, lag is around 0.5sec, and blurring is there. At home I have an old Core2Quad PC with integrated video no luck for stream. After installing a spare ATI 4870 card, streaming is OK with quite no lag. There is record button to record the stream on the PC.

Flying: there is short video during the first flight. (Gopro Hero3+Black, 720p mode)
EdgeFirstFlight (0 min 47 sec)

It is really stable with no twitch with default PID settings. Video is in Loiter mode, I'm moving to the Groundstation to check video and point the camera. As weather is really bad here, I do not fly a lot but I'm quite happy with Edge. Last landing was with a commanded RTL and landing point was 50cm close to the takeoff point.

Marc


Two pictures:
My Hexa waiting to fly
A screen photo when setting streaming.
Jan 03, 2018, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mlebret
Hello,

Santa is on his way: https://emlid.com/emlid-edge-stock/

He was at home early this month with a pre-release Edge unit. I am a Navio2-Raspberry Arducopter user since august 2016 and quite accustomed to Emlid products.

Technical data is available on the Emlid web site. I will share my "user" experience.

No problem with the flying side. Before installing the unit on my Gopro Hexacopter, I did a ground test.

First you need a Windows or Linux PC to run the special QGroundControl software. Configuration is quite easy, Wifi Edge unit is an access point, your computer connect to it with the other Wifi modem. Then you run the mandatory Arducopter configuration with QGroundControl.

Video streaming: Camera is connected to the Edge with micro hdmi cable, Edge can stream 1080 at 30fps. Groundstation PC performance is the key to quality. I have a Windows 10 Chuwi tablet, it is ok to visualise and point camera but as soon as there is movement, lag is around 0.5sec, and blurring is there. At home I have an old Core2Quad PC with integrated video no luck for stream. After installing a spare ATI 4870 card, streaming is OK with quite no lag. There is record button to record the stream on the PC.

Flying: there is short video during the first flight. (Gopro Hero3+Black, 720p mode)
vimeo.com/246950861
It is really stable with no twitch with default PID settings. Video is in Loiter mode, I'm moving to the Groundstation to check video and point the camera. As weather is really bad here, I do not fly a lot but I'm quite happy with Edge. Last landing was with a commanded RTL and landing point was 50cm close to the takeoff point.

Marc


Two pictures:
My Hexa waiting to fly
A screen photo when setting streaming.
Can you advise on all your video settings? I can't for the life of me get anything through the HDMI port. Tried multiple cameras and settings with no luck.

Trying to stream a Hero 3+ onto my fully fledged laptop running the Edge version of QGC.

EDIT: Combination of either a defective Firefly Q6 camera OR micro-micro HDMI cable as well as the need to sequence all the devices. Camera absolutely must remain off until everything else is conencted otherwise you get nothing through the stream. Have found GoPro to be much more reliable than said Q6. They tend to handle changing resolution/bit-rate mid-stream really well as opposed to the Q6 which can act up requiring a reboot.
Last edited by k_irys; Jan 04, 2018 at 12:19 AM.
Jan 04, 2018, 08:57 PM
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Can you advise on all your video settings? I can't for the life of me get anything through the HDMI port. Tried multiple cameras and settings with no luck.

Trying to stream a Hero 3+ onto my fully fledged laptop running the Edge version of QGC.

EDIT: Combination of either a defective Firefly Q6 camera OR micro-micro HDMI cable as well as the need to sequence all the devices. Camera absolutely must remain off until everything else is conencted otherwise you get nothing through the stream. Have found GoPro to be much more reliable than said Q6. They tend to handle changing resolution/bit-rate mid-stream really well as opposed to the Q6 which can act up requiring a reboot.
Can you stream it through mission planner like QGC?
Jan 05, 2018, 02:06 AM
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Can you stream it through mission planner like QGC?
Hello,

The Edge QGroundControl software is ready for streaming from the Edge. It may be possible to stream to another GCS or directly to PC but I lack the expertise to do that. There is also some compatibility problems with Mission planner... So stay with QGC.

Quote:
Can you advise on all your video settings? I can't for the life of me get anything through the HDMI port. Tried multiple cameras and settings with no luck.

QGroundControl streaming with W10 PC:

I use a flat ribbon with micro HDMI plugs.
Gopro Hero3+Black is set at 720-60fps. It work also at 1080-30 or 720-50/1080-25 (PAL video settings).

When Wifi link is OK between Edge and PC, I power the Gopro. In QGC, I select Video, Set video size at 1024*720, and Start streaming. There is a delay before receiving first frame (around 1sec).

I had difficulties to stream with the version 1.1 of Edge firmware (prerelease) and QGC. Video link was dropping every seconds. With a new "environment variable" in the PC settings, the problem was solved. Latest QGC 3.2.4 fix the problem.


Edge firmware.img is now version1.3. It is available from Emlid Edge Doc page. Arducopter version is 3.5.3. When upgrading firmware, all the settings are saved.


Use of a second GPS: I have a Drotek M8N XL with compass. It is plugged in Edge Serial1-I2c. After changing 2nd GPS settings from none to M8N in QGC, it is working. Compass is also detected. Setting is changed to Roll180 and after compass calibration all is OK.

Marc
Jan 05, 2018, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mlebret
Hello,

The Edge QGroundControl software is ready for streaming from the Edge. It may be possible to stream to another GCS or directly to PC but I lack the expertise to do that. There is also some compatibility problems with Mission planner... So stay with QGC.

Marc
Thanks for quick response!


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