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Jul 13, 2017, 08:49 PM
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FrSky - Horus X10, X10S and Express


FrSky Horus X10, X10S and Express ACCESS

Installing ETHOS on Horus systems https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ostcount=19778

ETHOS and OpenTX Feature Comparision Chart https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ostcount=26212

The new X10S/X10 Express has arrived. The Express is one in series of existing FrSky systems that are being updated to the ACCESS specs. First was the X-Lite Pro, X9D Plus/SE 2019 and then the Express.

The Express systems have the new ACCESS ISRM = Internal Serial RF Module. The ISRM supports the new 24 Channel FrSky ACCESS protocol, Spectrum Analyzer and RF power meter. Plus the Express has the features listed here https://www.frsky-rc.com/frsky-horus...tters-release/ Some of the updates for the systems are more extensive than others and in the case of the Express it includes a new main board. The new Express system runs an Express version of FrOS and it is available as an Express version of OpenTX 2.3 nightly

X10S Express battery https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ostcount=12312

Some of the FrOS Express changes I've noticed is the old FrOS "Update" function has been incorporated in the "Files" function. Navigate to the SD card and Firmware folder. Select the file you want to flash and the flash options are in the popup screen.

The FrOS Express firmware flashing is the same as the X10S/X10, but the FrOS flashing and RF module are now a separate process. When you flash the system with FrOS Express the internal RF module is not flashed like it was on the X10S/X10. You use the "Files" function to flash the ISRM.

The spectrum analyzer on the Express color screen is quite impressive compared to the other ACCESS systems with monochrome screens.

Because the ACCESS RF controls take up more screen space the internal module and external module have separate screens selected from the first page of MDL.

The INFO screen has two pages now. The first page as before for system information and the second page has the ISRM and receiver firmware version information.

X10S/X10 FrOS Express screen images. What is new and registration and receiver binding https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ostcount=12478

Information from FrSky on the RSSI alarm value for the ISRM in ACCESS mode https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=352

The X10S/x10 Express is supported by FrOS Express and OpenTX 2.3.1. OpenTX radio type Horus X10 Express.

When the External antenna is selected the antenna functions by its self. When the External antenna is not selected the two internal antennas function together in time share.

ACCESS For Existing X10S/X10 Systems

Firmware Update and ACCESS Upgrade Module Kit information https://www.frsky-rc.com/access-upgr...-kit-x10-x10s/ This update provides the ACCESS feature and new Bluetooth for existing X10S/X10 systems, but does not convert the system to a X10S/X10 Express system. As stated in the Express section above, the Express has a newly designed main board, etc. that supports the R9M 2019 in ACCESS mode .

The ISRM RF module listed as the X10S/X10 ACCESS Upgrade Module "Kit" or "Upgrade" is the ISRM provided for upgrading existing X10S/X10 systems to ACCESS and it uses this ISRM firmware, https://www.frsky-rc.com/access-upgr...-kit-x10-x10s/

It is critical that the ISRM is updated with the 2.1.0. firmware. along with the ACCESS receivers. Any D16 receivers operating in D16 mode with the ISRM will also need the 2.1.0. firmware. To avoid any confusion, as of 10/15/19 Upgrade ISRM is the only ISRM for sale from FrSky dealers.

I’m using the ACCESS RSSI warning level FrSky recommended of 32 and 35. However it is recommend that careful range checking is done and then set the RSSI warning alarm to a higher number if needed.

OpenTX versions 2.3.9. or newer support the ISRM upgrade including OTA functions. Select "internalaccess" in the X10 /X10S or X12S build options for the ISRM Upgrade Module.

Upgrade and Express ISRMs look identical externally, but the upgrade module is marked in felt tip pen “SA” or similar. The ISRM Express has no markings.

For the X10S.X10 the ISRM board itself is a plug in, after removing the X10S back cover and disconnecting the three antennas on the IXJT. The antenna connections are in the same physical location on the ISRM as they are on the IXJT. The Bluetooth module update requires some challenging de-soldering and soldering. The original Bluetooth continues to work if it is not replaced with the update.

Currently production X10/X10S Express ISRMs use ISRM firmware 2.1.0. from here https://www.frsky-rc.com/horus-x10-express/ Both the X10/X10S with the ISRM Upgrade Module and the X10S/X10 Express ISRM are interchangeable and use the same FrOS Express build. But best to use the FrOS provided at the ISRM upgrade link.

When the External antenna is selected the antenna functions by its self. When the External antenna is not selected the two internal antennas function together in time share.

The new FrSky ACCESS protocol https://www.frsky-rc.com/frsky-advan...tocol-release/

The new Archer receiver line and the following legacy receivers
can be used with ACCESS:

RX4R:https://www.frsky-rc.com/rx4r/
RX6R:https://www.frsky-rc.com/rx6r/
G-RX6:https://www.frsky-rc.com/g-rx6/
G-RX8:https://www.frsky-rc.com/g-rx8/
R-XSR https://www.frsky-rc.com/r-xsr/
XM https://www.frsky-rc.com/xm/

The FrSky Horus X10 and X10S

System Reviews

X10S Carbon Fiber - September 11, 2017
My system review https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=454

X10 Amber - September 20, 2017
Datos' images here https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=663 and review links here with video https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=786

Thoughts On X10 vs Taranis Plus - September 25, 2017
Rotozuk https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=952

Horus X10S review in the Model Aviation - August 2018
http://www.modelaviation.com/frsky-horus-x10

Battery

Main and RTC battery replacement "how to".
By greyflight390 https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ostcount=19393

18650 Battery + FCX10 and how it works:
By Datos https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=999

Dedicated Horus FrOS Thread

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...-OS-discussion

ETHOS Operating Systems How To Documents - X10S and X10

Information and how to install ETHOS https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...73&postcount=3

FrOS and OpenTX How To Documents - X10S and X10

X10S and X10 how to
1. SD Card Setup
2. Flash Memory Backup
3. Flashing OpenTX
4. Removing Open TX
5. FrOS Flashing for firmware updates
6. Sound file specs
7. Image file specs
8. Sport flashing
9. Firmware file compatibility
10. Stick end connections
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=862

FrOS - Landing Gear Door Sequencer
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...postcount=1758

FrOS - Configuring a simple fixed wing model including retractable gear (programming done on X12S but also applies to X10)
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...postcount=2702

FrOS - Programming Function Automation (programming done on X12S but also applies to X10)
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...postcount=2846

FrOS - Configuring a Critical RSSI Level Alarm function to augment the built in RSSI Warning Alarm (programming done on X12S but also applies to X10) https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...postcount=5941

FrOS - Using Telemetry As Inputs (programming done on X12S but also applies to X10)
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...postcount=9246

FrSky Free Link – Android Version
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...postcount=2010

Three position flap switch with flap to elevator mix
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ostcount=15028

OpenTX Documentation and Manual

http://openrcforums.com/forum/viewto...p?f=45&t=10905

System Configurations

Current SKUs
Silver X10 M10 gimbals
Amber X10 gimbals
Carbon Fiber X10S MC12 Plus gimbals

Custom dealer order (possible new SKUs)
Silver X10S MC12 Plus gimbals
Amber X10S MC12 Plus gimbals

Horus X10 Features

•Built-in iXJT+ module (the enhanced RF performance and the less latency)
•Wireless trainer system
•Support FrSky Free Link App (Download link: https://www.frsky-rc.com/app/)
•FrSky FrOS (Supports OpenTX, version 2.2.1 soon to be released)
•2 internal antennas and detachable external antenna
•Antenna detection and SWR warning
•Industrial LCD: 480*272 readable outdoor color screen
•Built-in Li-ion battery
•M10 hall sensor gimbals and extendable stick ends

Horus X10 Specifications

•Full Weight: 980g
•Operating Voltage: DC 7.2V
•Operating Temperature: -10 ~ 60 ℃
•Operating Current: 350mA@7.2V
•Number of channels: 16 channels (up to 32 channels)
•Model Memories: 60 (unlimitedly extendable by TF card)
•Transmitter Panel : Silver/Amber available

Horus X10S Features

•Built-in iXJT+ module (the enhanced RF performance and the less latency)
•Wireless trainer system
•Support FrSky Free Link App (Download link: https://www.frsky-rc.com/app/)
•FrSky FrOS (Supports OpenTX, version 2.2.1 soon to be released)
•2 internal antennas and detachable external antenna
•Antenna detection and SWR warning
•Industrial LCD: 480*272 readable outdoor color screen
•Built-in Li-ion battery
•MC12 Plus all CNC digitized higher accuracy ten ball bearings hall sensor gimbals and extendable stick ends

Horus X10S Specifications

•Full Weight: 1000g
•Operating Voltage: DC 7.2V
•Operating Temperature: -10 ~ 60 ℃
•Operating Current: 350mA@7.2V
•Number of channels: 16 channels (up to 32 channels)
•Model Memories: 60 (unlimitedly extendable by TF card)
•Transmitter Panel : Carbon Fiber/ Silver/ Amber panel selectable

Weight Numbers For Reference

0.85 lb X-Lite (with batteries and antenna)
1.76 lb Q X7 (NiMh)
1.84 lb X9DP
1.95 lb X20
2.03 lb 9C Futaba
2.16 lb X10
2.20 lb X10S
2.38 lb 16&18SZA Futaba
2.39 lb 12FG Futaba
2.54 lb Kraft 7C
2.65 lb 18MZA WC Futaba
2.87 lb X12S
2.87 lb Jeti

FrSky website

X10 https://www.frsky-rc.com/product/x10/
X10S https://www.frsky-rc.com/product/x10s/

FrSky Release Notice RCG Page

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...itters-release!

Amber Sound Pack For FrOS

Amber Sounds for FrOS by “hisroyaldudeness” https://hmvc.eu/AmberHorus.rar
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Jul 13, 2017, 08:51 PM
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I just saw this on Instagram

I love the tan colours, if it's light and has the same grips on the back as the X7, I'd be tempted to pick one up for a butchers at it.
Jul 13, 2017, 08:57 PM
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It is amazing how many new products they have created in the last year.

Mike
Jul 13, 2017, 09:06 PM
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Hmm, wonder what the pricepoint is.

Could well be the effective X9D+ replacement looking at what it's got in terms of controls
Jul 13, 2017, 09:12 PM
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Since the X9D SE is £230 here in the UK I'm gonna guess at £299-350, whatcha think?
Jul 13, 2017, 09:16 PM
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"soon" could mean literally ANYTHING with those folks.
Jul 13, 2017, 09:27 PM
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"soon" could mean literally ANYTHING with those folks.
They did a pretty good job of delivering the Taranis Q X7 shortly after the "coming soon" announcement.

Mike
Jul 13, 2017, 10:35 PM
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As a horus owner Im sure glad they didnt add more features over the 12 . i wouldnt be happy . Is it just me but it looks a little plasticy and cheap . It may well not be the case in real life . i must admit i wasnt keen on the Horus looks at 1st but now i like it . Cheers
Jul 13, 2017, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by the pope
As a horus owner Im sure glad they didnt add more features over the 12 . i wouldnt be happy . Is it just me but it looks a little plasticy and cheap . It may well not be the case in real life . i must admit i wasnt keen on the Horus looks at 1st but now i like it . Cheers
looks a lot less plasticky and cheap than the X9D does, and I'm suspecting it's replacing the X9D+ in the line (we'll know for sure when we see pricing).
Jul 13, 2017, 10:42 PM
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I noticed where the sliders are and I wonder if theres a battery door on the back . What are the no batt door bandwagon gonna say if theres one ? Cheers
Jul 13, 2017, 10:59 PM
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T5 and T6 are interesting. Wonder if they are trims for S1 and S2?
Jul 13, 2017, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FrSky RC
It's lighter than the X12S, It has eliminated certain features like GPS and 6-axis sensors and is powered by a Li-Po battery."
thanks to Frsky for considering all my suggestions otherwise you would have not invested time and money developing new products because for fanboys the weight and prehistoric NiMh battery was perfect.
I also said that accelerometers and GPS were not very useful and back sliders should be placed sideways
Now I need to know if the Tx hook is made out of cheap plastic and if there is a ball bearing under the roller/ wheel

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...0#post35710763
Jul 13, 2017, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by the pope
I wonder if theres a battery door on the back . What are the no batt door bandwagon gonna say if theres one ?
it depends on the battery capacity... I wonder if there is a module bay on the back

it looks like a mix of the 3 transmitters. X12 display, X9 SE gimbals and X7 look...let me speculate. $349
Jul 13, 2017, 11:27 PM
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thanks to Frsky for considering all my suggestions .................................................. ..........
Yes, you were the only person to suggest these changes and are solely responsible for the design decisions. None of the views of the hundreds of others who commented here and elsewhere and who emailed FRSKY and dealers suggesting modifications had any bearing on what was incorporated into the new design. Next you'll be expecting royalties.
Jul 13, 2017, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Radikal
it depends on the battery capacity... I wonder if there is a module bay on the back

it looks like a mix of the 3 transmitters. X12 display, X9 SE gimbals and X7 look...let me speculate. $349
How come you don't know? A minute or so ago you were telling us how you designed it.


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