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May 01, 2017, 04:19 AM
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20x20mm FC with 25A escs ??? is this real ?


Saw this at Banggood !!!

Check it out here


for the price , it could be the best powerbox for a 75mm-120mm quad !

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So banggood just announced 3 new 20x20 Powercubes !
the new onces looks like its updated.


the first one is XJB F425 with OSD :
https://www.banggood.com/20x20mm-XJB-F425-Dshot-Flytower-Micro-F4-AIO-OSD-BEC-Flight-Control-25A-Blheli_S-2-4S-4-In-1-ESC-p-1148284.html

Specification:
Item Name: 20x20mm Dshot Flytower Micro F4 AIO OSD BEC Flight Control & 25A Blheli_S 2-4S 4 In 1 ESC
Model: XJB F425
Weight: 6.5g
Usage: for 65mm-250mm Frame Kit

Micro F4 Flight Control Board ( D-Shot Version):
MPU: MPU6000-SPI
CPU: STM32F405RGT6, dual 8K.
Black Box: Flash 16M
Input Voltage: 2-4S Lipo
Built-in Betaflight OSD to adjust PID
BEC Output: [email protected]
Size: 25x25mm board, 20mm mounting holes (M2)
Weight:2.3g
Support Subs/PPM/DSMX receiver


25A 2-4S Blheli_S BB2 4 in 1 ESC:
Input Voltage: 2-4S Lipo battery
Constant Current: 25A
Peak Current: 30A (10S)
BEC Ouput: NO
Firmware: BLheli_S 16.5
Size: 27x27mm (main board)
31x31mm ( including pad)
Installing Hole: 20x20mm
Weight: 4.2g
CPU: SILABS EFM8BB2 48MHZ
MOS Tube: TOP QUALITY MOSFET
Firmware: Betaflight 16.5
Support Damped Mode, Oneshot125, Oneshot42, Multishot, Dshot150, Dshot300, Dshot600, forward and reverse

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second one is XJB F410 :

https://www.banggood.com/20x20mm-XJB-F410-Dshot-Flytower-Micro-F4-AIO-OSD-BEC-Flight-Control-10A-Blheli_S-2-3S-4-In-1-ESC-p-1148282.html

Specification:
Item Name: 20x20mm XJB F410 Dshot Flytower Micro F4 AIO OSD BEC Flight Control & 10A Blheli_S 2-3S 4 In 1 ESC
Model: XJB F410
Weight: 6.5g
Usage: for 65mm-250mm Frame Kit

Micro F4 Flight Control Board ( D-Shot Version):
MPU: MPU6000-SPI
CPU: STM32F405RGT6, dual 8K.
Black Box: Flash 16M
Input Voltage: 2-4S Lipo
Built-in Betaflight OSD to adjust PID
BEC Output: [email protected]
Size: 25x25mm board, 20mm mounting holes (M2)
Weight:2.3g
Support Subs/PPM/DSMX receiver


10A 2-3S Blheli_S BB2 4 in 1 ESC:
Input Voltage: 2-3S Lipo battery
Constant Current: 10A
Peak Current: 30A (10S)
BEC Ouput: NO
Firmware: BLheli_S 16.5
Size: 27x22mm (main board)
30x27mm ( including pad)
Installing Hole: 20x20mm
Weight: 4.2g
CPU: SILABS EFM8BB2 48MHZ
MOS Tube: TOP QUALITY MOSFET
Firmware: Betaflight 16.5
Support Damped Mode, Oneshot125, Oneshot42, Multishot, Dshot150, Dshot300, Dshot600, forward and reverse

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Third one is XJB F310

https://www.banggood.com/6g-20x20mm-XJB-F310-PBF3-EVO-Flight-Control-AIO-PDB-BEC-D-shot-10A-Blheli_S-2-3S-4-in-1-ESC-p-1148281.html

Specification:
Item Name: 6g 20x20mm XJB F310 PBF3 EVO Flight Control AIO PDB BEC D-shot & 10A Blheli_S 2-3S 4 in 1 ESC Flytower
Model: XJB F310
Weight: 6g
Usage: for 65mm-130mm Frame Kit

6Dof PBF3 EVO Flight Control Board ( D-Shot Version):
MPU: MPU6000
CPU: STM32F3CCT6, Flash 256K.
Input Voltage: 2-6S Lipo
BEC Output: [email protected]
Size: 23x23mm board, 20mm mounting holes (M2)
Weight:2.3g
Firmware: BF3.15 Firmware
Built-in RC/LC filter
Support Subs/PPM/DSMX receiver
-6Dof version, without Barometer and Compass

10A 2-3S Blheli_S BB2 4 in 1 ESC:
Input Voltage: 2-3S Lipo battery
Constant Current: 10A
Peak Current: 30A (10S)
BEC Ouput: NO
Firmware: BLheli_S 16.5
Size: 27x22mm (main board)
30x27mm ( including pad)
Installing Hole: 20x20mm
Weight: 4.2g
CPU: SILABS EFM8BB2 48MHZ
MOS Tube: TOP QUALITY MOSFET
Firmware: Betaflight 16.5
Support Damped Mode, Oneshot125, Oneshot42, Multishot, Dshot150, Dshot300, Dshot600, forward and reverse


the new boards looks really great .. old one was in my shopping cart but now i will order one of each of these when they become available.
Last edited by rotorsupport; May 03, 2017 at 05:53 AM. Reason: new ones announced
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May 01, 2017, 05:11 AM
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wow....

now lets wait for 11xx motors who can draw that kind of amps.
May 01, 2017, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dutchcommando
wow....

now lets wait for 11xx motors who can draw that kind of amps.
i think you could run these on a 210 sized quad .. problem will be how to mount it coz its only 20x20 mounting holes !!
DYS are coming with new motors i think .. 1104 rated for 4s .. i hope that will be soon
May 01, 2017, 10:48 AM
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yes it real, I had been using the fc on its own in a build, its a much better board than the pico blx,

the only down side is the mounting holes are M2 for some weird and annoying reason
May 01, 2017, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by estho
yes it real, I had been using the fc on its own in a build, its a much better board than the pico blx,

the only down side is the mounting holes are M2 for some weird and annoying reason
Can't these 2M be drilled carefully to 3M ?
May 01, 2017, 02:58 PM
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Is this the same board as on the XJB-80 and 75? These are also HGL Tech products.
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May 01, 2017, 03:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by estho
yes it real, I had been using the fc on its own in a build, its a much better board than the pico blx,

the only down side is the mounting holes are M2 for some weird and annoying reason
I have the v 1, great little boards.
Does the buzzer on v 2work for you? On v1 buzzer pads are dead.
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May 01, 2017, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by xanuser
I have the v 1, great little boards.
Does the buzzer on v 2work for you? On v1 buzzer pads are dead.
what buzzer volts do you use ? 3v buzzer ?
i just can't find a 3v buzzer anywhere !
May 01, 2017, 10:49 PM
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Think bigger with smaller components. I have been waiting for something like this when I designed this frame, its a 222mm stretch X frame. Using a Runcam Swift mini and a 20x20 FC can allow for a very narrow body even with replaceable arms. Wind resistance would also be lower with the weight. The weight of this frame would have to be around 70 grams if not lighter. The M2 holes do make things more difficult.

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May 01, 2017, 10:56 PM
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I forgot to mention Luminier has 20AX2 ESC with 20x20mm mounting but stacking two ESC's would make a pretty high stack.

http://www.getfpv.com/electronics/el...c-20x20mm.html
May 02, 2017, 12:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swishyas
Can't these 2M be drilled carefully to 3M ?
I did drill mine out but the corners come off, it can still be mounted but only if using plastic screws as after drilling to 3mm a some of the pcb is exposed and will short on metal screws through the frame

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoloProFan
Is this the same board as on the XJB-80 and 75? These are also HGL Tech products.
Edit: this is the board i had been using which is similar but has a built in pdb
https://www.banggood.com/Mini-20x20m...?rmmds=myorder

Quote:
Originally Posted by westers47
Think bigger with smaller components.
waiting on my custom frame from armattan atm, should be sub 25g-ish for 4" using the new runcam micro, I was going to this fc and esc stack but its simply the m2 mounting which kills it as using real soft mounts makes a big benefit to flight performance, hopefully someone makes m2 soft mounts
Last edited by estho; May 02, 2017 at 12:34 AM.
May 02, 2017, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by estho
I did drill mine out but the corners come off, it can still be mounted but only if using plastic screws as after drilling to 3mm a some of the pcb is exposed and will short on metal screws through the frame



Edit: this is the board i had been using which is similar but has a built in pdb
https://www.banggood.com/Mini-20x20m...?rmmds=myorder



waiting on my custom frame from armattan atm, should be sub 25g-ish for 4" using the new runcam micro, I was going to this fc and esc stack but its simply the m2 mounting which kills it as using real soft mounts makes a big benefit to flight performance, hopefully someone makes m2 soft mounts
Thanks , it was in my cart and now i removed it .. will look into other options
May 03, 2017, 02:39 AM
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20x20mm FC with 25A escs ??? is this real ?


This is the FC/ESC combo that came with my Loki X4 Mini ultralight 4-inch pre-built quad from HeliPal.

Personally, I am not convinced that the 4-in-1 ESC board can handle 25Ax4. Not able to test this as the Loki setup (1306-2100kV motors, 4045 props on 4S) doesn't draw much current (I estimate less than 5A per motor) even at max throttle. And that's really more than one should be putting through the JST power lead connector anyway. Punch outs are pretty anaemic. But the setup is pretty light (less than 120g without battery) so flight times are in the 7~8 minute territory with a 600mAh/4s pack.

I am thinking of putting replacing the motors with 1407s to liven things up a bit. The battery connector will have to be upgraded to XT30, though.

Last edited by dingrrcg; May 03, 2017 at 02:50 AM.
May 03, 2017, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by xanuser
I have the v 1, great little boards.
Does the buzzer on v 2work for you? On v1 buzzer pads are dead.
Banggood announced new ones , hopefully these will be with 3mm mount holes
May 03, 2017, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by swishyas
Banggood announced new ones , hopefully these will be with 3mm mount holes


I doubt it. They have a new, F4 version arriving soon but the specs still show M2 mounting holes. But you can wish!


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