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Apr 12, 2017, 12:47 PM
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...for the dll in all of us...

https://www.wired.com/2017/04/baselw...ors_picks=true



I especially like the Seiko Astron GPS Solar.
Apr 12, 2017, 01:01 PM
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Of those, the Astron would be my choice too. I could never have too many watches except for one thing-money! I'm selling off all of my springwound watches because servicing them has just become too costly.
Apr 12, 2017, 01:06 PM
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I like Tissot, classic look.
Apr 12, 2017, 01:07 PM
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Of those, the Astron would be my choice too. I could never have too many watches except for one thing-money! I'm selling off all of my springwound watches because servicing them has just become too costly.
Agree on that, when my Rolex Submariner needed service the bill came to $800 (originally paid $ 350 for it in 1966
Apr 12, 2017, 01:19 PM
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I bought my final springwound watch last year, a Seiko SRP775 Diver's that matches the almost identical one I bought new in the 70s. The old one has never been serviced for the 40 years and still runs fine, and if the new one lasts half as long, I probably won't need another...
Apr 12, 2017, 01:19 PM
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Agree on that, when my Rolex Submariner needed service the bill came to $800 (originally paid $ 350 for it in 1966
And Rolex tightly controls the supply of parts. If you have one fixed, they want the old part too. Makes it hard to have someone else fix them.
Apr 12, 2017, 01:24 PM
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I bought my final springwound watch last year, a Seiko SRP775 Diver's than matches my almost identical one I bought new in the 70s. The old one has never been serviced for the 40 years and still runs fine, and if the new one lasts half as long, I probably won't need another...
Seiko makes terrific watches, as good or even in some cases better than the Swiss, they just don't have that "Swiss made" cachet. Ironically, many Swiss watches have parts made elsewhere. I had a Breitling Jupiter Pilot (genuine with all papers). Nowhere on that watch did it say "made in Switzerland." Turns out the movement was made by Citizen and also used in a Sector and a Bulova chrono.

The one thing about Seiko: Older ones can be impossible to get parts for. I have a 6139 that can't be fixed and it's one of my favorite watches.

https://thespringbar.com/blogs/guide...llectors-guide

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/th...eiko-6139-6005
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Apr 12, 2017, 01:38 PM
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Seiko makes terrific watches, as good or even in some cases better than the Swiss, they just don't have that "Swiss made" cachet. Ironically, many Swiss watches have parts made elsewhere. I had a Breitling Jupiter Pilot (genuine with all papers). Nowhere on that watch did it say "made in Switzerland." Turns out the movement was made by Citizen and also used in a Sector and a Bulova chrono.

The one thing about Seiko: Older ones can be impossible to get parts for. I have a 6139 that can't be fixed and it's one of my favorite watches.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/th...eiko-6139-6005
My 6309 was made in the home factory in Japan, many subsequent ones were contracted out to other Asian counties. The back has never been off, and if it ever needs to be, I'll probably just retire it.
Apr 12, 2017, 03:13 PM
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My 6309 was made in the home factory in Japan, many subsequent ones were contracted out to other Asian counties. The back has never been off, and if it ever needs to be, I'll probably just retire it.
Well, you may want to have it cleaned and regulated while it works-or else sell it ($250-500). It's a good watch.

http://wornandwound.com/affordable-vintage-seiko-6309/
Apr 12, 2017, 04:28 PM
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Havent worn a watch since the early 90s, but I'd wear that Longines Heritage 1945.
Apr 12, 2017, 05:01 PM
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Well, you may want to have it cleaned and regulated while it works-or else sell it ($250-500). It's a good watch.

http://wornandwound.com/affordable-vintage-seiko-6309/
Just curious - how does a watch that has been specifically sealed to withstand the pressures of diving (and mine actually has), get dirty? (I've kept the exterior clean.)
Apr 12, 2017, 09:49 PM
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Just curious - how does a watch that has been specifically sealed to withstand the pressures of diving (and mine actually has), get dirty? (I've kept the exterior clean.)
What happens is the lube degrades and can congeal and wear on metal parts leaves particles. Also, seals harden or break down.
A good cleaning includes a complete teardown and putting all the parts in an ultrasonic bath, then physically cleaning the jewel holes and the ends of the balance and gear staffs. If needed, parts will be replaced. New lube is put on the lube points and everything is put back together. Then the movement gets wound and run and tested for accuracy. If need be it gets adjusted.

http://www.thewatchguy.com/pages/repair.html

How to regulate a mechanical watch - watch repair tutorial (7 min 18 sec)
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Apr 12, 2017, 10:18 PM
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Holy moly, I just looked up the price of that Longines...guess I wont be wearing that one.
Apr 12, 2017, 10:42 PM
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What happens is the lube degrades and can congeal and wear on metal parts leaves particles. Also, seals harden or break down.
A good cleaning includes a complete teardown and putting all the parts in an ultrasonic bath, then physically cleaning the jewel holes and the ends of the balance and gear staffs. If needed, parts will be replaced. New lube is put on the lube points and everything is put back together. Then the movement gets wound and run and tested for accuracy. If need be it gets adjusted.

http://www.thewatchguy.com/pages/repair.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQKoksLz12g
Wow - that makes sense, also sounds expensive. I'd be nervous that a needed part couldn't be found, or some damage occur during disassembly that couldn't be repaired. I read that the face glass & seal on the 6309 are especially fragile on removal.

It is still working well and keeps good time. There is no manual wind on it, so it strictly depends on kinetic energy to wind (unlike the new SRP 775 that has both manual and kinetic wind). I'm thinking I will just retire it as is and use the 775 for regular wear. I'll probably keep it as it has made too many good dives and memories, and pass it and the 775 on to my grandsons. The oldest is 6 now, so they will know how we used to use quaint mechanical methods to tell time in the old days...
Apr 13, 2017, 01:56 PM
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Wow - that makes sense, also sounds expensive. I'd be nervous that a needed part couldn't be found, or some damage occur during disassembly that couldn't be repaired. I read that the face glass & seal on the 6309 are especially fragile on removal.

It is still working well and keeps good time. There is no manual wind on it, so it strictly depends on kinetic energy to wind (unlike the new SRP 775 that has both manual and kinetic wind). I'm thinking I will just retire it as is and use the 775 for regular wear. I'll probably keep it as it has made too many good dives and memories, and pass it and the 775 on to my grandsons. The oldest is 6 now, so they will know how we used to use quaint mechanical methods to tell time in the old days...
It would cost less than a clean & reg on a chronograph. You might get a bill for $90-150. It's good to keep using it-helps prevent the lube from congealing. Also good to work the screw-down crown now and then. It's up to you but I'd get it serviced. A guy I know worked here and had a good opinion of them if you're interested:

http://www.righttime.com/rt/repair.htm

Another place I hear good things about:

http://www.abouttimewatches.com/

And if you want to send it to Seiko:

Coserv
1111 Macarthur Boulevard, Mahwah, NJ 07430, U.S.A
Tel:+1-201-529-3316
Fax:+1-201-529-4525
E-mail:custserv@seikousa.com
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