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Mar 25, 2017, 02:13 AM
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Falcon 56 mkII arf


Greetings. I'm just learning to fly. I had the pleasure of buddy boxing on a glow powered early generation Falcon 56 several weeks ago. I ended up buying a new in box mkII ARF kit shortly after. My intention is to build it as an electric.

My first step was to use motorcalc to assist in confirming that the motor I wanted to use would work. I chose the 670kv Turnigy G46, a 55amp ESC and a 11x8 prop.

I've been pondering on how to mount the motor before beginning with the rest of the short construction process. The motor is wider than the 10mm square wood rails meant to hold a glow motor carrier in the stock configuration. I will need to remove about 3mm per side from those wood rails to allow the motor to sit inside the fuselage. I spent about an hour measuring and CADing up a set of spacers that will glue solidly into the rear of the engine bay and stabilize the X-style mount that comes with the motor. These spacers are made of a nylon material. They can be mildly flexed by hand but should be quite solid once glued into the model. The pair weighs 14 grams.

As currently built this will allow the bell of the motor to sit just outside the front of the plane and with the collet/prop adapter the prop should sit about where a glow engine would have it located.

The plan is to add a small plywood reinforcement to the upper area of the firewall that is thinner than the lower area and then run 4 40mm long bolts, nuts, washers through the firewall, spacers and Turnigy mount.

I haven't cut anything yet. Opinions and wisdom welcomed.




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Mar 28, 2017, 12:02 PM
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Love Falcons & Skylarks!

I've done a few conversions using various mounting techniques; here are a few threads that might give you some more ideas/info:

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...-Power-Systems

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ic#post2513234

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...ng-Aveox-Power

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...4&postcount=16

BOL!

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Mar 29, 2017, 12:48 AM
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First put on the the prop driver, to see where the prop actually sits. You may only need a few blocks of wood as spacers. I would be concerned the plastic will squish down causing vibration & misalignment.

I learned on a Falcon 56, Glow motor and fixed gear as in NO nose gear steering. We used to run them down a sloped driveway and adjust by bending the gear wires till it ran straight. Once speed got up the rudder worked.
Apr 04, 2017, 11:38 PM
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Some progress has been made. I used a variety of saws, files and sanding blocks to remove the forward portion of the factory engine bearers. Here are some photos of the initial fitment of the spacers and the chosen motor.

I'm happy with the few degrees of down and right thrust. So far it matches what my cad model intended. I will use some spacing washers if the angle is too drastic during flight testing.

I still have some material to remove for proper clearance on the right hand side of the motor bay.



Apr 05, 2017, 06:30 AM
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Looking good!

Did you notice this thread at the bottom of the page: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?803598 ?

If you're an Intermediate (or beyond) Flyer you want to consider reducing the amount of dihedral from stock.
Apr 05, 2017, 07:09 PM
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Looking good!

Did you notice this thread at the bottom of the page: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?803598 ?

If you're an Intermediate (or beyond) Flyer you want to consider reducing the amount of dihedral from stock.
I did. However, I'm an absolute newbie. Flying my Hobbyzone Champ and FT Tiny Trainer right now. I'm planning to leave the stock dihedral in based on the glow Falcon 56 trainer I've been buddy boxed on. Unless someone can convince me otherwise...
Apr 06, 2017, 07:37 AM
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I agree; keep it stock.
Apr 06, 2017, 09:47 AM
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You could build another wing later if you want less dihedral. My original kit built F56 was modified to 1" dihedral, as the kits at the time did not have ailerons, but I was advised to add them. In retrospect, adding steerable nose gear would have been great.
Apr 14, 2017, 08:43 AM
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I built the 56 mkII in '77, this model did have ailerons. Don't change the dihedral it is fine.

I'll be interested in the turnigy G46 performance.

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Apr 15, 2017, 10:36 PM
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I've moved on to gluing up the wing and tail, installing the 3 servos, control surface linkages, landing gear, and the RX.

Next up will be epoxying in the motor mounts, bolting in the motor, installing the ESC and figuring out CG to make a battery tray.
Apr 16, 2017, 06:04 PM
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Goldberg Falcon 56 MkII arf (electric conversion) (0 min 15 sec)


Planned steps left:

build a battery tray, nail down the CG

paint the inside of the motor bay

double check all the nuts/bolts
Apr 16, 2017, 10:13 PM
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Wow I have to admit, I was incorrect. There is a lot of dihedral on the ARF. This is the amount on my Falcon 56 MkII build from 1977.

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Apr 23, 2017, 06:22 PM
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Here is the maiden flight. I didn't do the piloting as I'm still a complete noob and the wind was gusting to 20+MPH. My friend Denny who sold me the ARF kit did the flying.

Turnigy G46 670KV motor. 11x8 prop. Venom 2200 4S battery. Turnigy Trust 55a ESC.

Seems to fly great!

Falcon 56 MKii arf maiden flight (3 min 40 sec)
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Apr 23, 2017, 08:56 PM
I'd rather be flying.....
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Nice job and flight on that Falcon......

best regards,

jeff
Apr 24, 2017, 07:40 AM
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Nicely done!


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