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Mar 04, 2017, 01:35 PM
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Taylor v. FAA Update


My case challenging the FAA's model aircraft registration regulation, and the application of DC-area flight zones to model aircraft is scheduled for oral argument in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit on March 14, 2017.

Decisions are usually issued 3-4 months after oral argument.

This week, I filed my brief in a second case - challenging the FAA's application of Part 107 to recreational model aircraft:

Brief: http://bit.ly/2lhtjwQ
Appendix: http://bit.ly/2mnaf5c
Statutes: http://bit.ly/2lPrXuZ
Standing: http://bit.ly/2lhJtGt
Exhibits: http://bit.ly/2mEaC7C
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Mar 04, 2017, 02:24 PM
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Excellent!
Mar 04, 2017, 03:56 PM
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challenging
the OP should play with paperplane, no r/c & no mixup
https://www.google.com/search?q=pape...NVBnA4ChCwBAg-
Last edited by boombang; Mar 04, 2017 at 04:03 PM. Reason: link
Mar 04, 2017, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnATaylor
My case challenging the FAA's model aircraft registration regulation, and the application of DC-area flight zones to model aircraft is scheduled for oral argument in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit on March 14, 2017.

Decisions are usually issued 3-4 months after oral argument.

This week, I filed my brief in a second case - challenging the FAA's application of Part 107 to recreational model aircraft:

Brief: http://bit.ly/2lhtjwQ
Appendix: http://bit.ly/2mnaf5c
Statutes: http://bit.ly/2lPrXuZ
Standing: http://bit.ly/2lhJtGt
Exhibits: http://bit.ly/2mEaC7C
Well done!
Mar 04, 2017, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by boombang
the OP should play with paperplane, no r/c & no mixup
https://www.google.com/search?q=pape...NVBnA4ChCwBAg-
Oddly if paid to fly the paper plane you must comply with 107. At least if you control it with RC. I don't think you bothered to read his brief.
Mar 04, 2017, 05:07 PM
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his brief
no mention of R/C
Mar 04, 2017, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by boombang
no mention of R/C
107 does mention RC as does his brief.
Mar 04, 2017, 05:13 PM
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107 does
but not the petition
Mar 04, 2017, 05:26 PM
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as does his brief.
where exactly spelled out?
only states model aircraft
Mar 04, 2017, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by boombang
where exactly spelled out?
only states model aircraft
You need to read it from beginning to end. Also it is covered by reference as many references only cover r/c model airplanes.
Mar 04, 2017, 06:14 PM
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if the model aircraft is an sUAS [with r/c that is] then any FAA rule is legal
sec.336 does not address radio control at all
Mar 04, 2017, 06:22 PM
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if the model aircraft is an sUAS [with r/c that is] then any FAA rule is legal
sec.336 does not address radio control at all
Actually it does as you must have control to operate.
Mar 04, 2017, 06:28 PM
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Actually it does
no r/c exempt
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control to operate
does not specify any control [line or radio wave]
Mar 04, 2017, 07:00 PM
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no r/c exempt

does not specify any control [line or radio wave]
It says operate line of sight. Presently you can only use radio control for that.
Mar 04, 2017, 08:26 PM
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operate line of sight
right, but no specific manner of control is required by sec.336 & if r/c system is used then the FAA sUAS rules apply regardless of model aircraft