I am about to buy an Inside F5J. I use a Taranis X9D Plus but fly Mode 2 Throttle Left and always can find the right EEPE online for my gliders as I'm useless at programming. Would anyone be willing to share an EEPE in Mode 2 with throttle on left slider and flaps on throttle stick. I have a Supra F5J, F3j and SuperAVA Pro E and Pulsar Pro Res 2.5 all setup using Mike Shellim from RC-Soar.com's files. Thats why i would like to keep the transmitter outlay the same.

Many Thanks

Keith.

Mike Shellim's eepe's should be readily adaptable to a 6-servo wing.

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Hi,

Thanks for you prompt reply, Mike Shellim's Esoar plus is perfect but I have zero programming skills. Really I was hoping someone out there could share a similar setup or modify the esoar plus.

Many thanks

Keith.

Can take a look possibly this evening, the programming should be mostly cut & paste to create the extra aileron channels & programming. Offhand, It would involve duplicating the entire set of aileron programming for the outer ailerons, so you have two independently tuned sets of ailerons & mixes (allowing you to tune all mixes independently for each set).

Note that it will need 9 channels to output. While the Taranis is a 16ch, all the standard receivers max out at 8 servo outputs. You can bind them to start at ch9 instead of 1, and/or use the Sbus output to run servo's (sbus is ch1-16 always for a Taranis bound to X series receivers)

There's a couple ways to achieve this.

1. X4R in fuselage, bound to channels 9-12, X6R in wing, bound to ch 1-6, power connection is only connection between fuselage & wing. Simplest setup to wire fuselage and wing connector. Could also use XSR in wing & sbus servo's.

2. X4R-SB in fuselage, bound to channels 9-11, SBus to wing, with either SBus converters on ch 1-3/4-6 or SBus servo's.

3. X4R-SB in fuselage, bound to ch 1-3, Sbus to wing with sbus servo's orconverters, channels re-arranged form e-Soar's default to match.

some other variation on this (X6R in wing, Sbus to fuselage, etc).

My preference, from a wiring perspective is either #1 (lets you use nice, robust, lipo connectors between wing & fuselage) or #2 with Sbus servo's (easiest wing wiring). Luckily both options there can be covered by a single program on the TX as long as the X4R is bound to the high channels.

I did adapt Mike's e-soar eepe for the Inside F5J. It was easy as I recall. The throttle controls crow and not the motor. You could put the motor control on a slider. Here it is FWIW

Thanks for taking the time to explain this, I'll go with

1. X4R in fuselage, bound to channels 9-12, X6R in wing, bound to ch 1-6, power connection is only connection between fuselage & wing. Simplest setup to wire fuselage and wing connector.

Thanks Keith.

I just used an X4R SB in SBus for all servo channels. There are or were some credibility issues with the FrSky PWM to SBus converters. Two Rx's work, too. No SBus servos needed in that case. Or go with rudder elevator servos in SBus with wing servos and motor in PWM. Some people claim some accuracy issues with the C2100 wing servos (8 gram). I've not experienced those issues.

I'm attaching an EEPE modified to support the wing on CH1-6 and fuselage on CH9-12 for model 1 (X6R+X4R setup), and model 2 is for an X8R (ch1-8) with elevator on the SBus port (requires pwm converter or SBus servo configured for Ch9, I recommend the latter)

Ch 5 & 6 are the tip ailerons, and they get a new GVAR (4, Cm2Oai) for tweaking camber.

Trim is shared across the 4 ailerons. No spare Trimmer

I like the model 1 program. Are the flaps, flaps only? Or do they act as ailerons until the throttle stick is pulled back?
I'm using a GRX8 in the wing and a X4R SB in the fuse so using this program saves me a lot of time if I can tailor it to my needs.

Originally Posted by steener

I like the model 1 program. Are the flaps, flaps only? Or do they act as ailerons until the throttle stick is pulled back?
I'm using a GRX8 in the wing and a X4R SB in the fuse so using this program saves me a lot of time if I can tailor it to my needs.

As these are adapted from Mike Shellim's e-Soar plus, flap behaviour is fully configurable. You'll want the setup guide for V1.1 of e-Soar plus, or better yet, copy the modifications done to get 2 more aileron channels to a copy of the current version of e-Soar plus and run through it's setup guide (v2 bround significant changes and is FAR better to setup, but it's also quite different so the two versions are not interchangeable).

Although I do not use Tranis, I have an Inside which I first flew as designed, and then disabled the inner aileron as they seemed to add little to the turn /bank performance.
I have now changed the inner Ailerons to flaps which go UP when the main flaps go down. This allows good roll control while (theoretically) giving good decent control. Camber of the whole t.e. is still available. This setup is not yet flight tested, but should be shortly.

Just a thought.

Iain