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Jan 06, 2017, 04:54 PM
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Kyosho Raider + Remo 1/16 Truck = Frankenstein diy car


Hello,


I have had the remains of my Kyosho Raider Pro for years now and i always thought that i should do something with it to bring it to life.

Restoring it with original parts would be very hard since the parts are not easy to find plus they are vastly overpriced since they are considered vintage.

So one day i was browsing for cars and i found the Remo monster truck:

http://www.banggood.com/Remo-116-DIY...p-1104282.html

It may be a bit small since its 1/16 scale but i liked its symmetrical arrangement meaning that front and back share many same components like the arms the shock tower etc, plus it has metal gears

The general idea is to cut the remo about 2/3 of it ( discarding the front 1/3 ) and attaching it with 6 screws at the back of the Kyosho chassis to act as propulsion system. That way we will have a 1/10 RWD off road car


Along with the Remo KIT i bought the following:

ESC:
http://www.banggood.com/Racerstar-60...p-1085233.html

Motor:
http://www.banggood.com/116-18-2440-...-p-987418.html

Servos:
The original Futaba servos of the Kyosho still work perfectly fine

Axle wideners:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2525501951...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The Kyosho is a tiny bit wider than the Remo so i plan to add wideners at the rear

Motor HeatSink:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3317369224...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Tie Rods:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3816038995...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

For the front steering of the Kyosho

Wheels:
http://www.banggood.com/FY-CL01-Whee...l?rmmds=search

Regarding wheels i plan to use the wheels of the Feiyue FY03 that i already have

Oil Shocks:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Oil-...608.0.0.KLd2V5

Programming Card for esc
http://www.banggood.com/Racerstar-LE...p-1057127.html

For tuning down the acceleration

Receiver:
http://www.banggood.com/FrSky-V8FR-I...n-p-69051.html

I like this FrSKY receiver i use it on my plane with excellent results and it has diversity.

Gyro:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1822431225...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Battery:
http://www.banggood.com/ZOP-Power-11...-p-998821.html

I already have this from my plane and hopefully it will fit the car.


According to the tracking information from Banggood the Remo Kit will be at the local post office on Monday. So more details and photos when i actually have the KIT.

I believe that i have worked out everything in my mind, the only thing that i can't figure out is what shell/body to use.
I would appreciate any suggestions, i believe that a buggy body would be more appropriate but i am open to anything.

Maybe this will fit and its cheap:
http://www.banggood.com/FS-Racing-11...p-1000256.html

I have found the original Kyosho Raider body but it was too expensive



Thanks
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Jan 06, 2017, 06:50 PM
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watching with interest.
Jan 07, 2017, 09:52 AM
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Some more stuff that are still in good working order from the olden days.

I will be certainly be using one Futaba servo for steering. I don't think i am going to use the receiver and transmitter as i like to use only one Tx for all my models, plus you need a computerized Tx to harness the brushless power and use expo and dual rates.

At this point i would appreciate some suggestions on what body to use, since i must choose the body before i start cutting the Remo chassis, so i can adjust the total lenght of the car to the body
Jan 09, 2017, 03:03 AM
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Interesting project. I would also suggest using a new receiver/transmitter, keep the Futaba for fully vintage shelf queen, or so.
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Jan 09, 2017, 08:42 AM
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Finally the Remo kit arrived along with other things. The car is small, bit too small for my taste but seems perfect for the task at hand and of good quality.

I am posting photos of how the box arrived and what it contained. As you guys suggested i am indeed missing stuff as the dog-bones, the tools to assemble the car, the pins for the body etc but i don't know what else is missing. Can any one please make me a list as to what is missing exactly so i inform Banggood about it ?

It is also important to say that everything was packed well and there was no damage whatsoever.

As an added bonus i got a complementary screw that was moving around in the box lol
Jan 09, 2017, 09:16 AM
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Comparing the original Kyosho gearbox/ motor mount with the Remo KIT we can see that they are of comparable size/scale and that mounting the Remo onto the Kyosho front chassis will be relatively easy.

It seems that i will use almost all the Remo chassis and only cut off the front part where it start to get very narrow.. Also in the place where the servo and esc originally sits 6 screw holes will be drilled and this will act as the mounting point.

After the mock fitting we can start to get an idea of how the car will be. The wheel base will be about 34-35cm and the width will be about 24cm. This means that length wise the car is 1/8 scale while the width is of a 1/10 car so i will call the car 1/9 scale.

Using the whole Remo chassis means that we can fit a 4000mAh 3s on one side. Maybe 4000mAh is overkill but that's what i have at the moment.

The wheels used for mock fitting are of the Feiyue FY03, which are of excellent quality.

One surprising find is that the body of 9115 1/12 car is a perfect for for the Remo, so you can turn the Remo into a street car if anyone wants to do that.

I need pointers for a suitable body. I think that the body of the Hobiba 1/8 will be compatible:

http://www.banggood.com/HOBIBA-18-2_...-p-972591.html

http://www.banggood.com/HOBIBA-18-2_...-p-943066.html

Description:
Length:490mm
Width:306mm
Height:200mm
Wheelbase:330mm <--------
Weight:1.5KG
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Jan 09, 2017, 09:28 AM
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Regarding extras the following have arrived:

* ESC Programmer
* 4x oil shocks
* Steering rods
* Wheel wideners
Jan 09, 2017, 01:49 PM
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Cool! Can't wait to see wait you come up with! I also have big plans for my remo
Jan 09, 2017, 06:36 PM
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Planning for surgery :

Marking the holes and drawing guidelines to help when cutting and fitting
Jan 09, 2017, 07:06 PM
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Well we are having some progress:

The car is standing on its own now and the two pieces of the puzzle have matched up nicely with 6 screws. Final wheelbase of the car is 32.5cm,

Starting from the back i installed 4 oil shocks on the tower and used the flat arms of the Kyosho ( which where about the length as the Remo ones ) so they match with the front.

At the front as you see in the photos i have tried the friction suspension of the Remo and the suspension of the Feiyue. For now i am going with the suspension of the Feiyue since its shorter and lowers the front when using the Remo shocks front and back is level at the same height

As you will notice in the photos i have attached the top cover of the gearbox/shaft to the Kyosho chassis using a triangular piece. I don't know if this is structurally sound, because i am afraid that in a hard fall the gearbox will pop open.
The original design of the Kyosho Raider also connected the top of the gearbox to the front chassis so i am following what they did.

For understanding the size of the car i am using the Feiyue FY03 for comparison, and as you can see the "monster" is longer but the same width as the Feiyue. The Feiyue is "wearing" axle wideners and wider/bigger tires.

The downside of the day was that the axle wideners could not fit on the axles, as the Remo axles get fatter at the back, so now the front is wider than the back. I will try drilling the axle wideners and see if i can make them fit

At this point the car is starting to look like a Ratrod or hotrod so if anyone has suggestions for a suitable body i would appreciate it.
Jan 10, 2017, 12:05 AM
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Wow that's got a really long wheelbase! Bigger that 10th scale
Jan 10, 2017, 09:41 AM
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Status update:

More progress, we are have steering the rods i bought look tough and have plenty room for adjustment but i had to bend them for the suspension to work.

Regarding the axle wideners i drilled them to fit on the Remo axles but we have another problem now the tube nut does not fit thru the Feiyue wheels. I didn't want to drill the wheels too because i may want to put them back on the Feiyue desert eagle. Tried the Remo wheels they also don't fit without drilling them.

The car measures:

* 21cm wide at the back including the wideners
* 23.5cm wide at the front
* Total length 45cm including bumpers
Jan 10, 2017, 10:56 AM
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Just found out that i am missing the inner ball bearings on the front axles where the dog-bones go.
Jan 10, 2017, 11:42 AM
Have you seen my LVC?
Proline makes a rat-rod body for e-revo/truggy. There are a few truggies at my local track running them, they are pretty cool, if you take the time to detail them.

https://www.amazon.com/Rat-Rod-Clear.../dp/B00EKRA5W2

Jan 10, 2017, 12:03 PM
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Thanks, that's a nice looking body but it costs almost as much as the Remo kit

Rat Rod Clear Body for REVO® 3.3, E-REVO® & Summit® 3410-00 (0 min 32 sec)


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