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Oct 26, 2016, 04:35 PM
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DIY big props for coaxials


I opened this topic to support those who want to experience the construction of larger propellers for the f3p models.
In a few hours you can build a set of propellers using only materials available frequently in the workshop or at home.
Method used is an older one but the materials are secret ...who would have thought?...depron propellers?
So I started doing the first tests and I drew and cut a 15-inch propeller blade that I sanded and laminated with thin fiberglass and i found that it is strong enough to just 1 gram weight.
After that I built the first complete propeller to figure out what and how...the good news is that resisted at high speed rpm ,bad news ..is a bit heavy 3,5g because i added too much epoxi .
I rebuilt the procedure and I was more careful with resin and so i got a 0.9g blade... this makes me think that it is possible to have a total weight of 2.5 g for one prop.
I hope the pictures will help you understand how simple it is .
For the moment i don*t have at home carbon fiber tissue but in the future i will try if needed.
The central part is a little cross for mounting tiles cutted and drilled.
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Oct 26, 2016, 04:52 PM
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If Lantsov's latest coaxial is any indication, this is the direction things are moving in. It looks like you've got one of those pitch adjustment hubs too.
Last edited by Trisquire; Oct 26, 2016 at 07:19 PM.
Oct 27, 2016, 03:45 AM
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Bicutz,
Oh no! Just when I thought I was done experimenting you strike again.
Great work! How do you think they will work on your coax system?

Give some thought to using some interfacing material instead of CF veil or glass cloth. It's cheap, light weight and tough.

Are you printing the hubs?

George
Oct 27, 2016, 05:05 AM
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If you use it with this motor,, http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Outrunner.html
you must set an end point for throttle and set low pitch for 12 to 13 inch props,for larger props 14 -15 inch you must change the gear ratio by usig the 40 teeth crown gears with 8 teeth pinion
Now i use a smaller motor but not tested yet with larger props.
Like i said before the hub is a square profile piece of plastic cutted and drilled.
Last edited by bicutz; Oct 27, 2016 at 05:30 AM.
Oct 27, 2016, 05:27 AM
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These are just the first tests, I think to experience v -shape props in order to short the coaxial shafts and i*ll try the criss-cross bandage with carbon fiber for the props.
There is a lot of space to improve.
These are the tools...hope you like the mold
Oct 27, 2016, 03:41 PM
Risto Hölttä - F3A/P Team FIN
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This looks very promising indeed!
Oct 28, 2016, 09:20 AM
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I too am well down the rabbit hole seeking the lightest/strongest F3P props. I have yet to find a better solution than contest balsa. These are hand made (pretty east if you use CAD to help layout). 13" @ 1.66g and still way stronger than it needs to be from hub to root. Probably could get to 1.2'ish. The other one is denser balsa, weighs a gram more way stronger than it needs to be everywhere. I may thin it some more. I think Kimmo posted one at less than a G. I have some Rohacell on the way to try similar to yours Bicutz
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Oct 28, 2016, 12:06 PM
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Nice props Bill. Not to change the subject, but how much would I have to pay to get a scale as accurate as the one you're using? That would be a prerequisite to any prop carving of my own.
Oct 28, 2016, 03:07 PM
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10-20 bucks on ebay
Oct 28, 2016, 04:50 PM
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Cool. Thanks.
Oct 29, 2016, 11:49 AM
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Bicutz, Welcome back and with another super idea!

Questions: 3mm foam? 2mm for hub rods? What material did you use when you were forming props so that it easily peeled off the prop when resin set?
Oct 29, 2016, 01:03 PM
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Bill, great stuff. Are you willing to share your CAD files? Understood if you want to keep them proprietary. Our little team here is interested in both balsa and milled cores.

RED

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Originally Posted by bill clark
I too am well down the rabbit hole seeking the lightest/strongest F3P props. I have yet to find a better solution than contest balsa. These are hand made (pretty east if you use CAD to help layout). 13" @ 1.66g and still way stronger than it needs to be from hub to root. Probably could get to 1.2'ish. The other one is denser balsa, weighs a gram more way stronger than it needs to be everywhere. I may thin it some more. I think Kimmo posted one at less than a G. I have some Rohacell on the way to try similar to yours Bicutz
Oct 29, 2016, 01:50 PM
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Hi Vince!
Yes is 3mm depron and 1,5mm carbon rod for about 70mm long, try to insert the rod along the line before sanding work and without cut the blade ..this will save some weight. ....plastic bag, polyethylene i think...something like servo bags .
Last edited by bicutz; Oct 29, 2016 at 01:55 PM.
Oct 29, 2016, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RED_HLG
Bill, great stuff. Are you willing to share your CAD files? Understood if you want to keep them proprietary. Our little team here is interested in both balsa and milled cores.

RED
Red, would be more than happy to share my info. Fore the sake of hijacking this thread I will start another in the next few days


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