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Oct 21, 2016, 12:29 PM
scratchbuilder
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The Trottel - a simple and versatile aerobatic/3D machine, free plan


The Trottel (German for fool) is a very simple, not very beautiful flying machine that takes a lot of abuse. Quick and easy to build with excellent flight behaviour.
Modell AVIATOR: Downloadplan-Modell "Der Trottel" aus Heft 12/2016 (3 min 21 sec)


It is a free downloadplan in German Modell-Aviator magazine 12/2016
Download is here:
http://modell-aviator.de/files/av121...an_trottel.pdf
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Oct 22, 2016, 08:20 AM
scratchbuilder
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flight video


Neue Kunstflugfigur: Der Rohlmann! (1 min 31 sec)
Oct 22, 2016, 03:56 PM
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Specs and equipment


Span: 600mm
Airfoil: KFm 4
material: 6mm Depron
weight: ca 200g
motor. 20g outrunner
battery 2 - 3 s 450mAh
servos: 6-9g

It flies similar to the Eflite 280 Edge and Inverza, but is easier to control.
Ideal for recycling 280 equipment from damaged models.

Der Trottel fliegt überall (2 min 7 sec)
Oct 23, 2016, 04:42 AM
Going back to balsa
Painting the airplane while it is in a hover. I do enjoy the way that you do things, Thomas.

I wish that I had thought of that.
Oct 23, 2016, 04:47 AM
flyin' fool
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A paint brush on a long handle would be safer.
Oct 23, 2016, 06:59 AM
scratchbuilder
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Yes, with a ghostbuster - style compressor backpack!
Oct 29, 2016, 03:56 PM
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KungFu and Trottel vertical take off


Trottel is capable of VTO:
Stephan startet senkrecht (1 min 19 sec)
Jun 15, 2017, 09:18 AM
flyin' fool
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Can't believe the lack of interest in this wonderful design. At one time everyone had a Stik. Phil Kraft's Das Ugly Stik from 51 years ago was a mainstay of the hobby, way before we discovered the advantages of electrons and 3D flying. Most all designs based on this platform are still called Ugly Stiks around here. Well, by us ol' dudes anyways.

A couple being built locally as we speak.

http://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=1253
Jun 16, 2017, 03:51 AM
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Dear Thomas B.
Can you give more detail to build this plan?
Jun 23, 2017, 05:32 PM
flyin' fool
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A few mods ...................
Jun 24, 2017, 08:26 AM
flyin' fool
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If your using cheap 5 gram servos you can enhance their performance and life span by taking the top off and greasing the gears liberally. I use a #6 cut off round paint brush and Teflon based grease. Make sure you get lots on the output bearing surface, which is just a molder plastic shoulder.

Once done, work the servo on a tester for a few minutes. The first thing you'll notice is how nice and quiet they are.

Good to do on those cheap 9 gram ones too. Actually, I do this to all my servos, even the expensive MG BB digi ones.

Lots of grease at the top keeps the water out.
Last edited by goldguy; Jun 24, 2017 at 08:32 AM.
Jun 24, 2017, 05:41 PM
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Thomas,

This looks close to my Top Dawg Design for Foam.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...wg-foamy-Racer

As mine is set up for racing I never considered doing 3D with it.

But , I DID try and now I believe that if I increase the surfaces size
or possibly just the Deflections to 3D proportions
that it might be more equivalent to your Trottle.

Thanks for waking me up to another possibility.
Jun 25, 2017, 12:13 AM
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You can 3D just about anything with enough thrust and big control surfaces. Big surfaces because they rely on them moving air generated by the prop when flying slow or hanging around. Lots of rudder authority is a must.
Jun 25, 2017, 08:49 AM
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Off to maiden..................
Jun 25, 2017, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by goldguy
A few mods ...................
Thankyou so much goldguy!


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