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Old Sep 15, 2004, 10:38 PM
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No more foam crapolas for me, thank you.

Anybody else tired of these planes having dents and scratches on them before ever taking flight?

I look at my gws dc3 in the box and it looks like poop. Ditto for pc9 and corsair. Regrets, regrets.
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Old Sep 15, 2004, 11:45 PM
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I build my balsa planes to fly -and- be pretty, but I build my foam planes to fly Case in point, I spent a crazy amount of time covering my Attitude. It's a great 3D plane, but I'm afraid to get it within 10' of the ground for fear of a slip up. Now I've got a Shockflyer and routinely strafe the ground with it in knife edge or inverted. It'll get banged up eventually, but hey, if I want to show off my work I'll get the Attitude and hide the SF behind my back
Old Sep 15, 2004, 11:45 PM
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But you put them 20 feet away and you cant see those problems.

GWS planes and I assume other foam planes are made to be cheap yet easily repairable. They are not known for their looks. I crashed my tiger moth several times and in each case I was able to repair it within 10 minutes and be back flying. cant really do that with balsa while your at the flying field.
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Old Sep 15, 2004, 11:54 PM
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I suppose you're right. I just started building up some laser-cut kits and now the foam has lost its appeal. Every little knick just stands out like a sore thumb. The 20 foot rule is correct, and can even be reduced to less than 5 feet if at high speed!
Old Sep 16, 2004, 01:13 AM
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Yeah, you are right....the foam can look bad way too soon. All my GWS planes have arrived with various dents and scrapes. Better packaging could help a lot. The above posts are right the buggers and save the pretty balsa planes for show. I do feel your frustration though.
I solved the problem on my Formosa by glassing it. Man, way better than a balsa built, strong as heck, and was kinda fun compared to some of the balsa kits I have put together.
I enjoy all types of builds, so I just keep doing them all.
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Old Sep 16, 2004, 01:27 AM
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If you want good foam, PAY for it! Buy Alfa. You are getting what you pay for with GWS, and a bargain at that. Sure they could spend more money making a better looking plane, better QC, and better packaging, but how much more will YOU pay?
Old Sep 16, 2004, 03:12 AM
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that's the reason I ultracoat mine.... really improves the looks, dents and wt (2oz)...and build time....... and I still fly the heck out of it.... I think I still prefere stick built planes for the looks though! Each has its place in my hanger....
Old Sep 16, 2004, 07:38 AM
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Just goes to show you that you can't please all of the people all of the time.

Foam planes have their place. They serve a very good purpose for those people who like a plane that flies well and is fairly easy to build, and is affordable to boot.

What do you want for the price? If you deduct the cost of the motor and gearbox from the price of a GWS kit you'll find you're not paying very much for the airplane itself.

That doesn't make them crapola. If you don't like 'em in the box send 'em back and don't buy any more foam planes. It's simple really.
Old Sep 16, 2004, 08:49 AM
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Glassing them with .5 oz cloth and WBPA makes a nice, smooth, hard shell.. lite, too!
Old Sep 16, 2004, 09:22 AM
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I felt the same way untill i glassesd my fist GWS. What a change if i didn't do it i would have given up on foam but at $30.00 for the average slope glide kit without underpowerd factory motor they are hard to beat
Old Sep 16, 2004, 12:35 PM
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To me, a disposable warmup plane is a real asset. To have a disposable warmup plane that flys as well as the GWS Formosa does is an exceptional value.

I wish some of my balsa planes flew as good.

Old Sep 16, 2004, 12:49 PM
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My GWS foamies are my everyday fliers. They fly better than half the IC planes at the field. I love the scale balsa planes, balsa 3d planes,...etc......

Foamies have their place. About 10 feet away in a low pass .....I get my fix every morning that weather permits. And no messy clean up afterwards.......well, if you smear it all over the field , you have to pick up the pieces and get out the glue!!!
Old Sep 16, 2004, 12:50 PM
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EPP, simply the best for those wanting a resilient plane.

All other foams pale in comparison.

Old Sep 16, 2004, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Head
EPP, simply the best for those wanting a resilient plane.

All other foams pale in comparison.

I'm not so sure, the EPP planes i've seen break as much as regular planes.

Also, my foamy GWS corsair is fiberglassed, so it resists dents. It looks great. It will outlast any balsa plane. Plus, at 40 mph, you can't see any imperfections anyhow.
Old Sep 16, 2004, 01:31 PM
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You say I must follow the rules, but also SPARKY PAUL doesn't follow the rules, he continues to post only in "Life, The Universe, and Politics" and you say nothing because he is a great conformist.

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