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Why Do Evangelicals Prefer Donald Trump to Hillary Clinton? - ABC ...


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Why Do Evangelicals Prefer Donald Trump to Hillary Clinton?

By rachel zoll, ap religion writer

NEW YORK Oct 11, 2016, 9:27 AM ET



Cracks have appeared in evangelical support for Donald Trump over the video of his sexually predatory comments about women. But backing from some of his highest-profile conservative Christian endorsers, such as Liberty University president Jerry Falwell Jr., is holding.

Among those reversing course was well-known theologian Wayne Grudem, whose endorsement was widely cited by other Christians backing the Republican presidential nominee. The prominent evangelical magazine Christianity Today on Monday said Trump was "the very embodiment of what the Bible calls a fool." James MacDonald, a member of Harvest Bible Church in Illinois and of Trump's evangelical advisory board, called the candidate's remarks "misogynistic trash." The pastor told the magazine he would no longer work with the campaign unless Trump repents.

Popular evangelist and author Beth Moore tweeted that she was among many women who had been sexually abused or harassed and that "we're tired of it." That behavior, she warned, becomes more acceptable "when some Christian leaders don't think it's that big a deal."

Katelyn Beaty, the author of "A Woman's Place" and a former managing editor at Christianity Today, said Moore's comments indicate evangelical women are becoming more wary of Trump, "especially as it relates to the ways he consistently talks about and treats women."

But James Dobson of Family Talk radio condemned Trump's comments but called Clinton's support for abortion rights "criminal."

"Mr. Trump promises to support religious liberty and the dignity of the unborn. Mrs. Clinton promises she will not," Dobson said in a statement Monday.

Falwell, an early endorser of the real estate magnate, said Trump's remarks were "reprehensible." Still, Falwell said, "we're never going to have a perfect candidate," and suggested the video leak was engineered by Trump's enemies in his own party. evangelicals against Trump.

Still, as the year progressed and the large pool of GOP primary contenders dwindled, it became clear that white conservative Christians were coalescing behind the candidate. Recent polls show the GOP presidential nominee drawing about 70 percent of the white evangelical vote.

Although some evangelicals defended Trump's character, many couched their endorsements in pragmatic terms, focused on Trump's promise that he will appoint conservative justices to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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Oct 11, 2016, 06:25 PM
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Obama should sign an Executive Order forcing Trump out of the race. Enough is enough!
Oct 11, 2016, 06:31 PM
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Never underestimate the power of prayer.

Christians are turning away from Trump. He's trying to destroy the Republican party. He hates them.
Oct 11, 2016, 06:34 PM
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If he would just [sign an EO to put Hillary in prison, we could throw a partyy
Oct 11, 2016, 08:36 PM
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Never underestimate the power of prayer.

Christians are turning away from Trump. He's trying to destroy the Republican party. He hates them.
Your one of those guys Hillary pays huh?
Oct 11, 2016, 08:45 PM
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Your one of those guys Hillary pays huh?
I am... I get paid extra if someone puts me on ignore.
Oct 11, 2016, 08:55 PM
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If he would just [sign an EO to put Hillary in prison, we could throw a partyy

I know that The Donald made you think at the debate that's how it works, but it's not.
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Oct 13, 2016, 08:02 AM
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I am... I get paid extra if someone puts me on ignore.
You must be gettin rich then..
Oct 13, 2016, 04:12 PM
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Saw on the news a female conservative religious blogger disgusted by Trumps behavior towards woman and equally disgusted by those religious conservatives in congress still supporting Trump. Good for her.
Oct 13, 2016, 04:20 PM
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Probably because the Evangelicals, having actual morals, recognize bad, and worse.
Oct 13, 2016, 04:43 PM
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From Washing Post

Most of the very first Republican lawmakers to disown Donald Trump and call for him to drop out of the presidential race over the weekend came from one relatively small state: Utah. That was no surprise. This reliably Republican state hates Donald Trump. That might seem harsh, but there's really no other way to describe it. And the reason is clear and unmistakable: It's because of Mormons, who are very conservative and normally very Republican, but who are also very anti-Trump. We knew that before, but now we have a gauge of just how much. Monmouth University released a poll Thursday that was the second in two days to suggest Trump has a fight on his hands to hold this ruby-red state. While a poll Wednesday showed Trump tied with Hillary Clinton at 26 percent and third-party candidate Evan McMullin just 4 points back, this one is slightly better for Trump. It shows him up 6 points on Clinton, 34-28, with McMullin stalking behind at 20 percent.
Still in play, but not quite as dire.
New poll shows Donald Trump up 6 in Utah. But...

Donald Trump
34%
Hillary Clinton
28%
Evan McMullin
20%

Source: Monmouth University

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What is dire, though, is Trump's standing with Utah voters. Only 19 percent of them have a favorable opinion of him, while 71 percent have an unfavorable one. Those are stunningly bad numbers for any politician — and especially when you're talking about a Republican in a deep-red state. In fact, his image is worse than Clinton's, whose favorable-unfavorable split is 25/69. And yet Trump leads, because #partisanship.
If you dig further into the numbers, you'll find that the reason Trump is so disliked and in a close race is almost completely attributable to Mormons, who comprise about 60 percent of the state's population.
Among non-Mormons, Trump runs about as well as the other Republicans on the ballot this year. Gov. Gary Herbert trails among non-Mormons by 10 points, and Sen. Mike Lee trails among them by 17. Trump's deficit, meanwhile, is 21 points.
Among just Mormons, though, Trump takes 38 percent of the vote, while Herbert takes 80 percent and Lee takes 79 percent.
Now, these Mormon voters aren't going to Clinton, mind you — despite a new push this week aimed specifically at that demographic — but they have found a home with McMullin, a Mormon and Utahn who is focusing intently not just on Utah as a state, but on fellow Utah Mormons. In fact, McMullin remains basically unknown to everybody but Utah Mormons. While 46 percent of Mormons are able to rate him either favorably or unfavorably, 82 percent of non-Mormons don't know enough about him to rate him either way. And that 46 percent likes him; 41 percent have a favorable opinion, while just 5 percent dislike him.
And that's the big reason why McMullin is in the hunt. He trails Trump by just 6 points among Mormons, 38-32, but is far better-liked by them. While 41 percent of Utah Mormons like McMullin, just 19 percent like Trump — even as the GOP nominee is far better-known. Fully 69 percent of Utah Mormons dislike Trump.
Heavily Republican Utah Mormons deeply dislike Trump

Favorable
19%
Unfavorable
69%

Source: Monmouth poll
What's pretty clear right now is that, if casting a ballot for Evan McMullin weren't essentially a protest vote, he'd likely be winning Utah and depriving Trump of 6 electoral votes right now. He still may do it, of course. It just depends on how much Mormons decide they really dislike Trump.
Oct 13, 2016, 04:45 PM
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Probably because the Evangelicals, having actual morals, recognize bad, and worse.
What I thought noteworthy was the disgust coming from a female conservative, I guess that disgust is lacking amongst conservative males?
Oct 13, 2016, 04:48 PM
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Don't underestimate evangelicals, sinners are ok (Trump), they are redeemable, "you don't shoot the wounded". On the other hand those that are pure evil (Hillary) must be rejected. It's very simple.
Oct 13, 2016, 04:49 PM
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She did in fact say irredeemable

Hillary Clinton is *less* forgiving than God

This should tell you all you need to know about her character
Oct 13, 2016, 05:02 PM
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Don't underestimate evangelicals, sinners are ok (Trump), they are redeemable, "you don't shoot the wounded". On the other hand those that are pure evil (Hillary) must be rejected. It's very simple.
Does it matter which church you attend ? Your post seems to suggest that.


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