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New faa rules part 107 non commercial fpv license required...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngogl.../#2da000a36743
This claims if someone wants to fly fpv they have to have the small uav pilot certificate even if you are non commercial... Does anyone have any knowledge as to whether this is accurate? Or can one be an ama member and fly fpv according to thier rules? Also, there is mention of being required to be a part of an orgination such as the ama and follow it's rules. If this is the case can one be an ama member and fly at a random location, such as an abandoned building or something, if they have a spotter, establish a temporary flight line, etc, or must one only fly at an ama sanctioned field to be compliant with ama rules? |
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The more I look into this the more it seems to me that none of part 107 applies to anybody in the Hobby World. Part 107 covers commercial use there for anything found in there doesn't apply to non-commercial use.
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No such requirement here for a license:
https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/ |
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Wow! If this quote from the article is an actual FAA response it totally stinks and, like the registration requirement, is another example of the FAA bending the intent of 336.
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I'm going to guess that they may allow FPV under AMA rules for FPV flight (observer, LOS, etc.) |
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It appears it all comes down to the use of "within line of sight" which this particular person may be applying it to mean you must be looking at it whereas this is the only case I have found of this and it appears the usage by the faa and ama is within, meaning it stays "within" a distance and area that it can be visible observed or not go outside or behind something where it cannot be seen... but doesn't mean you must have eyes on it constantly and thus the requirement for an observer.
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Last edited by Ionfreefly; Aug 25, 2016 at 11:41 AM.
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Look into proposed FAA rules 101 subpart E
Here is a thread on this subject https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show....php?t=2718398 |
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No two people come away with the same reading. I'm guessing this is done on purpose, by the FAA. They get to decide, in court, what it means. And the defendant is stuck paying the fines, or spending really big bucks defending them self. Against the Feds no less. And, good luck with that.
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In my mind, if a law is not clear and its meaning is not overwhelmingly agreed upon, it is junk and is only good for attorneys to making money. But even that hasn't slowed down the FAA yet. 336 said that they couldn't make new rules, so they decided to start a new requirement for model airplane fliers to register and mark their aircraft, because, they said, they have always been in the aircraft registration business - requiring modelers to register isn't anything new. |
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Hey folks, with this new regulation coming in effect today finally checked FAA statement myself - only the summary part, but this is what they have as a clear statement:
https://www.faa.gov/uas/media/Part_107_Summary.pdf Visual line-of-sight (VLOS) only; the unmanned aircraft must remain within VLOS of the remote pilot in command and the person manipulating the flight controls of the small UAS. Alternatively, the unmanned aircraft must remain within VLOS of the visual observer. On any FPV race that's going to be true - since there will be lots of observers to observe the flight when pilot has no direct line of sight - right? |
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The FAA's so stupid (or corrupt - take your pick). Flying tiny quads FPV under trees in ones own yard endangers no full scale aircraft. And if you say well what if the craft gets away from you - goes way high up, and blah blah blah - well - that silly scenario could happen with a spotter, or without one. The FAA's the beast - and it's running loose in our streets and cities. Making up stupid, onerous, idiotic laws. Unto itself. |
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Not true at all. As long as you fly within the recommendations of a CBO (AMA) you can fly FPV within LOS and an observer. This is nothing new. Just read the AMA guidelines and follow them and you will be fine. I wish people would stop spreading information they know nothing about. I have discussed this with the AMA many times over the past year. 107 is for non-hobby use ONLY.
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