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I've setup a HKPilot Micro from Hobbyking and now regret not having gone for your setup with the mini APM in the first place. Here's why.
1. The number one reason is types of connectors. I have lots of these little connectors and leads that are all super delicate and if I need to make my own, it's a real pain. Like everybody else, I have nice servo crimpers etc and can make my own servo leads with ease so making a perfect loom would be muuuuuch easier. As it is, I have wires going all over the place and it's yuck. I don't trust my connections as well as you obviously do yours! 2. It's expensive compared to the APM mini pro. I just bought a new mini-pro on Ali Express for $32 with free shipping. The HK Pilot micro is about $53 plus shipping charges. 3. It didn't come with a case. The APM mini pro comes with a case. It's nice to have if you want one and I did pay a lot for the whole master set. 4. The HK Pilot OSD seems to require a reset every time you turn it on to display the OSD data. This is not being so critical of the HK Pilot as I'm sure you could use any OSD with it, but it would be the first choice for many because it already has the right type of leads and connectors on it. It's also expensive compared to the OSD Ican3d uses. These are the main reasons why I won't be buying another HK Pilot micro and I thank you for showing me a lower cost, more reliable setup to use in future. |
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Btw caseless APM save weight. One my V2 build there no OSD inside because i prefer to transmit the data obert the air via telemetry to my phone. Its easier to monitor, phone do the talking about voltage and stuff plus you can control using your phone or game joystick rather on traditional radio control. MinimOSD module usually generate more heat, amps and cause more problem during bootup which is why i removed from several of my models. |
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Here's the list of parameters used by UAV WING WING Z-84 (Version 2) build. All the parameters are based on Arduplane V3.4 firmware. Some lines of parameter have been removed because parameters setting such as compass, acc and gyro sensors are very much based on "locality" factor setting which you need to do calibrate it by yourself. So copy the below parameter manually.
*Note: 1. Assume you use the same hardware a setup as V2 build 2. Different radio transmitter mode/setup requires different radio channel calibration range/PWM signal and flight mode. 3. This parameter optimal for Wing Wing Z-84 with full flying weight between 390gram~410gram. Different weight, CG, motor combo power, or different servo performance/throw requires extra tuning. ================================================== ====== Firmware: ARDUPLANE v3.4 only ================================================== ====== ACRO_LOCKING,0 ACRO_PITCH_RATE,180 ACRO_ROLL_RATE,180 AHRS_COMP_BETA,0.1 AHRS_GPS_GAIN,1 AHRS_GPS_MINSATS,6 AHRS_GPS_USE,1 AHRS_ORIENTATION,0 AHRS_RP_P,0.2 AHRS_TRIM_X,-0.02656116 AHRS_TRIM_Y,-0.0274512 AHRS_TRIM_Z,0 AHRS_WIND_MAX,0 AHRS_YAW_P,0.2 ALT_CTRL_ALG,0 ALT_HOLD_FBWCM,0 ALT_HOLD_RTL,8000 ALT_MIX,1 ALT_OFFSET,0 ARMING_CHECK,0 ARMING_REQUIRE,0 ARMING_RUDDER,0 ARSPD_AUTOCAL,0 ARSPD_ENABLE,0 ARSPD_FBW_MAX,19 ARSPD_FBW_MIN,10 ARSPD_OFFSET,890.8737 ARSPD_PIN,0 ARSPD_RATIO,1.9936 ARSPD_SKIP_CAL,0 ARSPD_TUBE_ORDER,2 ARSPD_USE,0 AUTO_FBW_STEER,0 AUTOTUNE_LEVEL,6 BATT_AMP_OFFSET,0 BATT_AMP_PERVOLT,18.0018 BATT_CAPACITY,3500 BATT_CURR_PIN,12 BATT_MONITOR,4 BATT_VOLT_MULT,10.1 BATT_VOLT_PIN,13 BATT2_AMP_OFFSET,0 BATT2_AMP_PERVOL,17 BATT2_CAPACITY,3300 BATT2_CURR_PIN,12 BATT2_MONITOR,0 BATT2_VOLT_MULT,10.1 BATT2_VOLT_PIN,13 BRD_SERIAL_NUM,0 CAM_DURATION,10 CAM_SERVO_OFF,1100 CAM_SERVO_ON,1300 CAM_TRIGG_DIST,0 CAM_TRIGG_TYPE,0 ####### COMPAS PARAM REMOVED ######### ELEVON_CH1_REV,0 ELEVON_CH2_REV,0 ELEVON_MIXING,0 ELEVON_OUTPUT,3 ELEVON_REVERSE,1 FBWA_TDRAG_CHAN,0 FBWB_CLIMB_RATE,2 FBWB_ELEV_REV,0 FENCE_ACTION,0 FENCE_AUTOENABLE,0 FENCE_CHANNEL,0 FENCE_MAXALT,0 FENCE_MINALT,0 FENCE_RET_RALLY,0 FENCE_RETALT,0 FENCE_TOTAL,0 FLAP_1_PERCNT,0 FLAP_1_SPEED,0 FLAP_2_PERCNT,0 FLAP_2_SPEED,0 FLAP_IN_CHANNEL,0 FLAP_SLEWRATE,75 FLAPERON_OUTPUT,0 FLTMODE_CH,6 FLTMODE1,11 FLTMODE2,2 FLTMODE3,10 FLTMODE4,12 FLTMODE5,5 FLTMODE6,0 FORMAT_VERSION,13 FS_BATT_MAH,0 FS_BATT_VOLTAGE,8.1 FS_GCS_ENABL,0 FS_LONG_ACTN,0 FS_LONG_TIMEOUT,5 FS_SHORT_ACTN,0 FS_SHORT_TIMEOUT,1.5 GCS_PID_MASK,0 GLIDE_SLOPE_MIN,15 GLIDE_SLOPE_THR,5 GND_ABS_PRESS,50397.33 GND_ALT_OFFSET,0 GND_TEMP,35.2931 GPS_GNSS_MODE,0 GPS_MIN_ELEV,-100 GPS_NAVFILTER,8 GPS_SBAS_MODE,2 GPS_TYPE,1 GROUND_STEER_ALT,0 GROUND_STEER_DPS,90 HIL_ERR_LIMIT,5 HIL_SERVOS,0 INITIAL_MODE,0 ####### ACC/GYRO PARAM REMOVED ######### INVERTEDFLT_CH,0 KFF_RDDRMIX,0 KFF_THR2PTCH,0 LAND_DISARMDELAY,20 LAND_FLAP_PERCNT,0 LAND_FLARE_ALT,3 LAND_FLARE_SEC,2 LAND_PITCH_CD,0 LEVEL_ROLL_LIMIT,5 LIM_PITCH_MAX,2500 LIM_PITCH_MIN,-3000 LIM_ROLL_CD,4500 LOG_BITMASK,0 MAG_ENABLE,1 MIN_GNDSPD_CM,0 MIS_RESTART,0 MIS_TOTAL,13 MIXING_GAIN,0.5 NAV_CONTROLLER,1 NAVL1_DAMPING,0.75 NAVL1_PERIOD,18 PTCH2SRV_D,0.04309839 PTCH2SRV_FF,0 PTCH2SRV_I,0.04335644 PTCH2SRV_IMAX,3000 PTCH2SRV_P,0.5746452 PTCH2SRV_RLL,1 PTCH2SRV_RMAX_DN,75 PTCH2SRV_RMAX_UP,75 PTCH2SRV_TCONST,0.45 RALLY_INCL_HOME,0 RALLY_LIMIT_KM,5 RALLY_TOTAL,0 RC1_DZ,30 RC1_MAX,1917 RC1_MIN,1067 RC1_REV,-1 RC1_TRIM,1495 RC10_DZ,0 RC10_FUNCTION,0 RC10_MAX,1900 RC10_MIN,1100 RC10_REV,1 RC10_TRIM,1500 RC11_DZ,0 RC11_FUNCTION,0 RC11_MAX,1900 RC11_MIN,1100 RC11_REV,1 RC11_TRIM,1500 RC2_DZ,30 RC2_MAX,1919 RC2_MIN,1070 RC2_REV,-1 RC2_TRIM,1504 RC3_DZ,30 RC3_MAX,1919 RC3_MIN,1069 RC3_REV,1 RC3_TRIM,1069 RC4_DZ,30 RC4_MAX,1919 RC4_MIN,1070 RC4_REV,1 RC4_TRIM,1491 RC5_DZ,0 RC5_FUNCTION,0 RC5_MAX,1919 RC5_MIN,1068 RC5_REV,1 RC5_TRIM,1071 RC6_DZ,0 RC6_FUNCTION,0 RC6_MAX,1834 RC6_MIN,1070 RC6_REV,1 RC6_TRIM,1834 RC7_DZ,0 RC7_FUNCTION,0 RC7_MAX,1497 RC7_MIN,1488 RC7_REV,1 RC7_TRIM,1497 RC8_DZ,0 RC8_FUNCTION,0 RC8_MAX,1497 RC8_MIN,1488 RC8_REV,1 RC8_TRIM,1497 RCMAP_PITCH,2 RCMAP_ROLL,1 RCMAP_THROTTLE,3 RCMAP_YAW,4 RELAY_DEFAULT,0 RELAY_PIN,13 RELAY_PIN2,-1 RELAY_PIN3,-1 RELAY_PIN4,-1 RLL2SRV_D,0.05059387 RLL2SRV_FF,0 RLL2SRV_I,0.063927 RLL2SRV_IMAX,3000 RLL2SRV_P,0.6745849 RLL2SRV_RMAX,75 RLL2SRV_TCONST,0.45 RNGFND_LANDING,0 RSSI_PIN,-1 RSSI_RANGE,5 RST_MISSION_CH,0 RST_SWITCH_CH,0 RTL_AUTOLAND,0 RUDDER_ONLY,0 SCALING_SPEED,15 SCHED_DEBUG,0 SERIAL0_BAUD,115 SERIAL1_BAUD,57 SERIAL1_PROTOCOL,1 SERIAL2_BAUD,57 SERIAL2_PROTOCOL,1 SERIAL3_BAUD,38 SERIAL3_PROTOCOL,5 SERIAL4_BAUD,38 SERIAL4_PROTOCOL,5 SKIP_GYRO_CAL,0 SR0_EXT_STAT,2 SR0_EXTRA1,6 SR0_EXTRA2,6 SR0_EXTRA3,2 SR0_PARAMS,10 SR0_POSITION,2 SR0_RAW_CTRL,2 SR0_RAW_SENS,2 SR0_RC_CHAN,2 SR1_EXT_STAT,2 SR1_EXTRA1,5 SR1_EXTRA2,2 SR1_EXTRA3,3 SR1_PARAMS,10 SR1_POSITION,2 SR1_RAW_CTRL,2 SR1_RAW_SENS,2 SR1_RC_CHAN,5 STAB_PITCH_DOWN,2 STALL_PREVENTION,1 STEER2SRV_D,0.005 STEER2SRV_FF,0 STEER2SRV_I,0.2 STEER2SRV_IMAX,1500 STEER2SRV_MINSPD,1 STEER2SRV_P,1.8 STEER2SRV_TCONST,0.75 STICK_MIXING,1 SYS_NUM_RESETS,48 SYSID_MYGCS,255 SYSID_SW_TYPE,0 SYSID_THISMAV,1 TECS_CLMB_MAX,5 TECS_HGT_OMEGA,3 TECS_INTEG_GAIN,0.1 TECS_LAND_ARSPD,-1 TECS_LAND_DAMP,0.5 TECS_LAND_PMAX,10 TECS_LAND_SINK,0.25 TECS_LAND_SPDWGT,1 TECS_LAND_TCONST,2 TECS_LAND_THR,-1 TECS_PITCH_MAX,0 TECS_PITCH_MIN,0 TECS_PTCH_DAMP,0 TECS_RLL2THR,10 TECS_SINK_MAX,5 TECS_SINK_MIN,2 TECS_SPD_OMEGA,2 TECS_SPDWEIGHT,1 TECS_THR_DAMP,0.5 TECS_TIME_CONST,5 TECS_VERT_ACC,7 TELEM_DELAY,0 THR_FAILSAFE,0 THR_FS_VALUE,950 THR_MAX,68 THR_MIN,0 THR_PASS_STAB,0 THR_SLEWRATE,100 THR_SUPP_MAN,0 THROTTLE_NUDGE,1 TKOFF_FLAP_PCNT,0 TKOFF_ROTATE_SPD,0 TKOFF_TDRAG_ELEV,0 TKOFF_TDRAG_SPD1,0 TKOFF_THR_DELAY,2 TKOFF_THR_MAX,0 TKOFF_THR_MINACC,0 TKOFF_THR_MINSPD,0 TKOFF_THR_SLEW,0 TRIM_ARSPD_CM,1400 TRIM_AUTO,0 TRIM_PITCH_CD,0 TRIM_RC_AT_START,1 TRIM_THROTTLE,57 VTAIL_OUTPUT,0 WP_LOITER_RAD,60 WP_MAX_RADIUS,0 WP_RADIUS,90 YAW2SRV_DAMP,0 YAW2SRV_IMAX,1500 YAW2SRV_INT,0 YAW2SRV_RLL,1 YAW2SRV_SLIP,0 ================================================== ====== |
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Nice work Ican. I haven't started on my Z-84 yet but when I do, I won't be trying for such long distance. I'll be using mine for longish (40 minute flights) of FPV with aerobatics etc and also some longish distances (maybe 10 Km's) with long range receiver and OSD. After that, I may go for a long range machine like yours. I know that you're mostly going for long range and may not want to do this, but just in case you want to maintain a long range control link throughout your entire flight, why not consider Flip Flaps, 1 Watt long range setup. Thanks for the printout of all the settings for the APM, they should come in real handy when I get around to setting up my Wing Wing. I'll probably use a slightly bigger motor, OSD, video transmitter and I've already got my Li Ion batts on their way.... I'll be setting up 4S, should be great.
On another note, since your running uncased everything and sometimes run into wet weather, you might find this Flitetest vid on waterproofing interesting. So, I paid $41 AUD for my APM and afterwards saw that I can get it for about $20 AUD off ebay. So I'm a bit ripped off but way ahead on a HK Pilot. |
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I tried to make a similar battery pack with 3 18650's in series a few months ago and I couldn't get the solder to stick to the positive or negative tabs. I'd like to know the secret.
I have a battery holder for 3 of these cells but it negates the benefit of the Lithium Ion batteries. |
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Thanks for the waterproofing links. Btw not planning to control via long range radio, i just wanna sit down relax and wait for the plane to return with great footage. I think with 4S assume you're on Li-on that also will have longish flight time due to smaller amp consume to rotate the prop RPM. Quote:
You'll need to scrap those positive/negative terminal tabs with rought sand paper to remove the outer coating, those rough surface will enables the solder leads to grip well. Try it. |
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Dear xxx xxxx, Thanks for purchasing from us. However, we regret to inform you that when we were preparing to ship the order to you, we found that the last few pieces in stock are damaged and not suitable for sale. After contacting our supplier urgently, they informed us that the item is unexpectedly discontinued and it will not be available again in the near future. Therefore, we have to cancel this order. Please let us know if this will be ok with you. We will issue you a full refund to your PayPal account once we get your reply. We apologize again for any inconvenience caused to you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 14017361 1 18.32 APM PRO New Mini APM Flight Control Opensource for Quad Octa Multicopter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sincerely, Audrey Luo |
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Well they need to pull the listing cause they still have them listed for sale...Whats up with that
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Impressive build and awesome results. What efficiency can you get out of this little plane?
Flying my Skyfun with a 4s2p li-ion around 1.27Wh/km |
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I never thought the words long range would be used with this little plane. Well done
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