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Jan 02, 2016, 07:21 PM
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looking for a reasonably priced 1/10 2wd brushed monster truck.


Hi.
I seek durability and high quality parts.
my budget is 200 to 250 USD.
The title says almost all.
I want a kit car that i can build myself.
I don't need lipos nor chargers and i've got the radio.
On my budget i can't go brushless or 4wd i guess, only if i buy a chinese butter car, right?
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Jan 02, 2016, 09:40 PM
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Monster truck rarely come in kits...

For your budget, Arrma Granite is 250$ at towers and is brushless...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...VSEARCH=arad42
Jan 03, 2016, 12:33 AM
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Proline monster truck is the only kit I can think of. It's $290 on tower. That's a kit tho, no electronics included.
Jan 03, 2016, 04:04 AM
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How fast do you want to go? The quintessential budget Monster Truck kit would probably be a classic Tamiya like a Midnight Pumpkin or Lunchbox http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXKSG2&P=ML

If you want to go fast and bash around, you're pretty much stuck buying a ready to run Arrma, Traxxas, or Chinese car at that price. Arrma and Traxxas are very durable with good parts support from hobby shops. Some of the China made cars are actually pretty good quality, you gotta do your research and be prepared to fix assembly errors and buy replacement parts.
Jan 03, 2016, 06:17 AM
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How fast do you want to go? The quintessential budget Monster Truck kit would probably be a classic Tamiya like a Midnight Pumpkin or Lunchbox http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXKSG2&P=ML

If you want to go fast and bash around, you're pretty much stuck buying a ready to run Arrma, Traxxas, or Chinese car at that price. Arrma and Traxxas are very durable with good parts support from hobby shops. Some of the China made cars are actually pretty good quality, you gotta do your research and be prepared to fix assembly errors and buy replacement parts.
Thanks for your reply.
I was thinking about a tamiya with a WT-01 chassis, maybe in the future i can put a brushless motor on it, because is comes with a double purpose ESC, maybe the tamiya New volkswagen amarok with the WT-01 chassis... the motor is a 540 brushed, same as the traxxas stampede 2wd brushed, i assume that the speed is almost the same.... or NOT???? and if no... why?

On the other side, tamiya speaking, there's also the GF-01 1/12 4wd with the special center diff, and again the option to upgrade to brushless in the future, the only problem is that is fairly little at 1/12.
What do you think about those?
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Jan 03, 2016, 06:21 AM
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For a fun kit building experience I'd recommend the BFX:
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=131456

More info here comparing the BFX to the P2de:
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=135166

Another option to consider is buying a used Hyper 10TT:
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho....php?p=1577144

Here's a hybrid conversion ATV project with parts from a Hyper 10SC and 10TT:
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho....php?p=2005433
Jan 03, 2016, 04:17 PM
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For a fun kit building experience I'd recommend the BFX:
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=131456

More info here comparing the BFX to the P2de:
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=135166

Another option to consider is buying a used Hyper 10TT:
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho....php?p=1577144

Here's a hybrid conversion ATV project with parts from a Hyper 10SC and 10TT:
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho....php?p=2005433
Hi and thanks for the reply.

What do you think about the gf01?
And what about the amrok on the wt01 chassis?
What is the top speed on the stock 540 brushed motor?
Jan 03, 2016, 04:41 PM
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I'm not up to speed with all the cryptic chassis numbers that Tamiya offers, but the stock 27T brushed 540 motor that is included should go about 15mph with the stock pinion and about 18mph with the upgraded pinion option. The BFX will be pretty much indestructible at those speeds.
Jan 03, 2016, 06:12 PM
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I'm not really familiar with all the Tamiya kits, WT-01 is 2WD and GF-01 is 4WD, I think the GF-01 is designed largely for popping wheelies, it's probably geared slower (lower gear ratio). The Amarok on the WT-01 chassis looks nice, and is probably the faster of the two, I don't see gear ratios or any mention of speeds on Tamiya's website so I can only guess.

The brushed motor Traxxas Slash is going to be a faster car because it's designed more around a racing type platform, and it's going to have a much lower turn motor (higher rpms) than the motor the Tamiya's use. You could put a lower turn motor into the Tamiya, in fact that's as far as I'd go with upgrading the motor in the Tamiya, large brushless motors in cars designed for brushed motors doesn't usually end all that well. You could upgrade with a smaller brushless motor for a small increase in speed and power, but it's not all that worth it. If you want brushless speed and power, then you really need something that was designed to be brushless from the start. The only thing I could think of that would be like building a kit in that case, would be to get a 1/10 scale stadium truck, gear it lower than normal, and install larger tires on it. That would near double your budget though.

Another option then, is an ACME Racing Circuit Thrash/HobbyKing Skull Crusher. Inexpensive, designed to be brushless, decent quality. Do some research, buy some spare parts and upgrades, then when you get it, pretty much take it apart and rebuild it to be sure it was assembled correctly.
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Jan 04, 2016, 08:00 AM
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"Large brushless motors in cars designed for brushed motors doesn't usually end all that well."

No room for upgrades.
That makes me really sad.
Damnit
Jan 04, 2016, 08:19 AM
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I ran my BFX on 4S and never had any issues with a mild 17.5T motor... I later settled on a Tacon 3650-3200kV motor on 2S for the sweet spot with the BFX which comes with a modern gear box to handle mild brushless systems.
Jan 04, 2016, 08:37 AM
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I ran my BFX on 4S and never had any issues with a mild 17.5T motor... I later settled on a Tacon 3650-3200kV motor on 2S for the sweet spot with the BFX which comes with a modern gear box to handle mild brushless systems.
I'm confused now.
It's possble to upgrade to brushless and get something like 30mph with this trucks or NOT??
You say that the bfx is ok for that, what about this:
http://www.tamiyausa.com/items/radio...n-amarok-58603
Jan 04, 2016, 08:59 AM
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Yep, that looks just like the same chassis as the BFX, it will do around 35mph with the Tacon motor I referenced earlier and the gears will hold up so long as you have smooth starts on acceleration. I never jammed the throttled hard when I ran with that setup.
Jan 04, 2016, 09:30 AM
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Yep, that looks just like the same chassis as the BFX, it will do around 35mph with the Tacon motor I referenced earlier and the gears will hold up so long as you have smooth starts on acceleration. I never jammed the throttled hard when I ran with that setup.
You could always use an exponential on the throttle.
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You could always use an exponential on the throttle.
nice call... or maybe adjust the ESC to have the lowest punch setting


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