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Nov 22, 2015, 08:59 AM
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More evidence that politics as usual is being rejected


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Democrat John Bel Edwards won the runoff election for Louisiana governor Saturday, defeating Republican David Vitter.

Vitter, once considered a shoo-in to replace Gov. Bobby Jindal in deep-red Louisiana, trailed Edwards in public polling in advance of the weekend's runoff election.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elec...vernor-n467086
Nov 22, 2015, 11:12 AM
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At this point anything that shakes up the status quo is potentially positive but only if we make sure it is positive.
Nov 22, 2015, 11:43 AM
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Politics as usual is alive and well .... Democrats overwhelmingly did not support auditing the fed again .... What's there to hide?
Nov 22, 2015, 03:30 PM
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lol, the Climton dynasty is poised for a serious chance at the white house, if that isnt politics as usual I dont know what is.

(I left out Jeb because he has no chance - an excellent example of how actually progressive the Republican base is, vs the regressive nature of Democrats with Hillary)
Nov 22, 2015, 03:41 PM
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Yes there is evidence of rejection, the RINO establishment has lost the base. The guy that sounds like a real American leads the polls.
Nov 22, 2015, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by srt8madness
lol, the Climton dynasty is poised for a serious chance at the white house, if that isnt politics as usual I dont know what is.

(I left out Jeb because he has no chance - an excellent example of how actually progressive the Republican base is, vs the regressive nature of Democrats with Hillary)
My take on what you said... is that the Republicans are frustrated and the Democrats are not. So sure, politics are as usual for the Dems.

I don't think it was a Dem win in Louisiana but rather a Republican loss that had to do with conservatives who are frustrated and don't want more of the same course they've gotten from the Republican party.

At the start of the race, the Republican Vitter was a shoo in... so what happened? Did conservatives switch to a punishing frame of mind? Did they simply fail to go the polls due to apathy? Did Vitter turn them off along the way? Did the Dem start looking attractive?
Nov 22, 2015, 05:01 PM
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My take on what you said... is that the Republicans are frustrated and the Democrats are not. So sure, politics are as usual for the Dems.

I don't think it was a Dem win in Louisiana but rather a Republican loss that had to do with conservatives who are frustrated and don't want more of the same course they've gotten from the Republican party.

At the start of the race, the Republican Vitter was a shoo in... so what happened? Did conservatives switch to a punishing frame of mind? Did they simply fail to go the polls due to apathy? Did Vitter turn them off along the way? Did the Dem start looking attractive?
You are trying desperately to read something into this that isn't there. While Obama has been president the democrats have lost 12 governorships, dozens of senate and house seats and over 900 state level seats.

If the democrats continue doing things as usual they will continue to lose. The results show clearly that the voters are pushing back hard against democrats and their agenda.
Nov 22, 2015, 08:44 PM
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You are trying desperately to read something into this that isn't there. While Obama has been president the democrats have lost 12 governorships, dozens of senate and house seats and over 900 state level seats.

If the democrats continue doing things as usual they will continue to lose. The results show clearly that the voters are pushing back hard against democrats and their agenda.
Yep... there is no doubt that with the decline of the working class and the consolidation of money and power in the hands of big business and the Republicans, that the way forward for Dems is tough and won't get better until working class conservatives figure it out that Republicans aren't their friends.
Nov 22, 2015, 08:50 PM
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Yep... there is no doubt that with the decline of the working class and the consolidation of money and power in the hands of big business and the Republicans, that the way forward for Dems is tough and won't get better until working class conservatives figure it out that Republicans aren't their friends.
Democrats have already proved they aren't.
Nov 22, 2015, 09:06 PM
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Democrats have already proved they aren't.
Who was it that gave tax cuts to the wealthy, and then borrowed the money to fight an unnecessary war and left office with the country mired in a deep recession that ravaged the middle class so badly that it will likely never recover its former economic opportunities?

The Republicans did this while distracting conservatives with wild goose chases of culture issues.
Nov 22, 2015, 09:32 PM
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Edwards actually did receive a scholarship offer from West Point, accepted the appointment, graduated and served as an Army Ranger.

Some aspiring pols may want to take a clue from that...
Nov 22, 2015, 11:20 PM
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Who was it that gave tax cuts to the wealthy, and then borrowed the money to fight an unnecessary war and left office with the country mired in a deep recession that ravaged the middle class so badly that it will likely never recover its former economic opportunities?

The Republicans did this while distracting conservatives with wild goose chases of culture issues.
Can't disagree with the GOP's obsession with social issues...they won't get my support until they grow up in that regard.
Nov 23, 2015, 10:01 AM
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Yep... there is no doubt that with the decline of the working class and the consolidation of money and power in the hands of big business and the Republicans, that the way forward for Dems is tough and won't get better until working class conservatives figure it out that Republicans aren't their friends.
Funny, its typically dem policies that target the working class.
Nov 23, 2015, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AA5BY
Who was it that gave tax cuts to the wealthy, and then borrowed the money to fight an unnecessary war and left office with the country mired in a deep recession that ravaged the middle class so badly that it will likely never recover its former economic opportunities?

The Republicans did this while distracting conservatives with wild goose chases of culture issues.
Who was it enacted policies that further pushed this class into a lower bracket in favor of putting that money in the pocket of insurers?

You speak of Rs doing so yet completely ignore Dem damage to the middle class, what irony.
Nov 23, 2015, 10:13 AM
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Yep... there is no doubt that with the decline of the working class and the consolidation of money and power in the hands of big business and the Republicans, that the way forward for Dems is tough and won't get better until working class conservatives figure it out that Republicans aren't their friends.
That makes no sense at all. If there was a decline in the working class and more people broke that would benefit the democrats. Perhaps the fact is more people are moving up as the stats would indicate. Those people want to hold politicians accountable and have less of their money taken from them.

The things that make things tough for the democrats are the democrats. Their policies and agenda simply don't make sense. They have tried constantly to be the party of us vs. them instead of focusing on how to make america better. They try to scare people into voting for them by making a boogey man who doesn't really exist. People are sick of it.


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