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Oct 28, 2015, 08:32 PM
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Old Dog, Old Ways. New Tricks, BLAHHHHH!


I have several design programs, none that I care for. While trying to get
some plans together for a forum member, two days in a row, the power
went off while I was working. I save every fifteen to thirty minutes, but
I still lost a lot of work both times.

No More Computer Aided Design! I am unloading the programs.

Went to Hobby Lobby, bought a couple T-squares, some erasers, got
plenty of pencils triangles, french curves, rulers. Bought a pad of cheap
paper. Just has to last long enough to get to the print shop and have them
scanned. ON A Damned computer, but what else can I do??? Make stone
plates and print them on palm leaves?

And a desk top drafting table. I love it. Got the plans done in a couple hours.
Take them to the print shop tomorrow. Get them on the site mid day.



This is how I learned to do it, over fifty years ago. And I did it this way
for over forty years.
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Oct 28, 2015, 08:44 PM
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Got a drawer full of them funny triangular plastic thinggies, and still use them, but I like Sketchup for anything I want real precision for. I finally broke down and got coreldraw6 when I found a pack for under $200, and now I can design in sketchup, export as .dxf and read into Corel for final tweaks before handing over to my favorite laser gal for cutting (it's so easy to get spoiled - even do prototypes this way)

I feel your pain, though all the above only works when power is on! And, I wouldn't have a clue how to use Sketchup if I hadn't been in drafting/engineering for 36yrs. (Fisher Body Engineering drafting school! - triangles and compasses, 4H, french curves, etc, etc.
Oct 28, 2015, 09:01 PM
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People laugh at me. I have a drafting setup too. I can draw a set of simple plans in a hour or so. Simple line drawings mind you. I have a couple CAD programs and for simple things, I find the paper, pencil, 3 sided thingies work great. My friends son was looking at a set of my compasses in a nice fitted case. He asked why the end had this funny looking jaw. They were my inking set. When I told him how the old blue prints were made, he asked why they did not print them? I explained this was long before there was a computer or a ink printer. He had the funnest look on his face, like I was describing life in the stone age. Sort of fun to be old enough to remember when.


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Oct 28, 2015, 09:05 PM
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I like the simplicity of non computer design. Finally got one of my old windows computers going and put sketchup on it. Drew a box section fuselage on it, like a OSG but can't figure out how to lay the 3D construction panels out flat.

I tend to draw a sketch on piece of paper then lay it out on foam. When I make a fuselage I draw the sides and then figure out what should fit in the middle for top and bottom. I use carpenter and machinist tools to make it work.
Oct 28, 2015, 09:10 PM
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A lot of times I just draw the plans on the foam board and start cutting. The P-38 is just a
3 view I found online and printed the size I wanted. Not rocket science.
Oct 28, 2015, 09:22 PM
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I like the desk top table, folds up and goes behind the door. Space is a premium in my shop room.
Oct 28, 2015, 09:30 PM
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What is the model in post 1, is a balsa conversion?

Have found that I like adding some balsa into the foam, seems to make it more rigid without much weight.
Oct 28, 2015, 09:44 PM
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It is a 20" O-Fungle. You can use the plans for any size so I just did the 20" because it was easy.

And it is all balsa.

40" version.

Oct 29, 2015, 12:00 AM
Allways the hard way!
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C-A-D... Tried it, but clearly my patience is sorely lacking!

So i use an old-school projector. Simply move it back & forward till you have the size you want and trace!

Templates are simple A4 3-views printed and cut out by scissor...

You just gotto watch the distortion. So i mostly just do one-half template and just use it mirror image to get a perfectly symmetrical shape..

Real easy, real old-tech.... real happy with it!
Oct 29, 2015, 07:10 AM
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Hundreds of years from now scientists will create a medium for recording information. It will be a revolutionary invention capable of working in the worst conditions and across all platforms. It will have astonishing archival properties and no special software is required to read nor will there be required updates. Whats more, it will never become obsolete and be unable to be read by newer machines/computers.

They will call it paper.
Oct 29, 2015, 07:57 AM
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I kind of enjoy making drawings for plans. Drafting was one of the few things I was any good at in school.
Still use all the hardware as well as a hand held calculator to blow up 3 view drawings to the size I want. I draw them out on butcher paper, cut them out and trace onto poster board for templates.
Part of the enjoyment of scratchbuilding unusual planes you never see kitted.
P.S. Compressor Man:: Most people don't know what flypaper is.

Gord.
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Oct 29, 2015, 09:25 AM
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Old way is still the best way ... JMHO2
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Oct 29, 2015, 10:51 AM
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Plans? Who's heard of such nonsense?
Oct 29, 2015, 11:10 AM
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Plans? Who's heard of such nonsense?
I agree, but others want them.
Oct 29, 2015, 11:59 AM
Allways the hard way!
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I agree, but others want them.
I recently ventured into the obscure world of correx/corroflue.. built a couple of slot jest with the stuff.
Posted my bunglings on my local forum and was hounded for plans.

So i made some simple templates and posted them. Took me 2 whole nights to make them.. just simple templates! Not even proper plans..

Took me only one eve the cut and build the entire airframe! So i got a lotta new found respect for the gents that regularly post plans!


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