Hi all! I have learned to fly decently with my Syma X11. It is my first quad. I have practiced taking off, landing and a little bit of indoor precision flying when I cannot go outside. I'm totally new to RC flying but quads have opened the door to this exciting hobby. What do I do next after I learn the basics. I'm getting better at what they call "pitch flying" and I'm working to smooth out my banked turns. However, outside of the basics which are numerous in the web, what can I do to challenge myself to improve my flying and control skills. I'm not truly interested in using a camera or FPV modes. Just pure acrobatics at this point. I do apologize if this was already mentioned someplace else in this forum. If it has, please link this thread so I can find it. Thanks!! ( did use the search function with minimal results).. Thanks for all your help all!.

Practice flying by "Yaw" instead of strafing left to right. Then once you have done that, there was a uk based training guide I can't find that was great.... It suggested movements that you practice so you can repeat them well in wind or stationary. Like doing a smoother figure 8 movement, where each "loop" is the same size. Moving in a square shape.

Unihiron: The biggest and most important thing to learn is to fly in "acro mode," i.e. with self-leveling turned off. Does your X11 have an "acro mode?" That's the only way you will be able to have real control over your quad's flying, especially for aerobatics. Flying in "stability mode" is like learning to ride a bike with training wheels. It helps at first, but quickly becomes a limiting factor.

Here are some of the learning/training threads I have bookmarked for reference:

• Quad Beginner
• Learning Quad Flying -- Lesson Sequence
• Learning coordinated banked turns on quad
• ACRO MOVES for multicopter video list
• New pilot practice maneuvers?

Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by UNIHIRON

Hi all! I have learned to fly decently with my Syma X11. It is my first quad. I have practiced taking off, landing and a little bit of indoor precision flying when I cannot go outside. I'm totally new to RC flying but quads have opened the door to this exciting hobby. What do I do next after I learn the basics. I'm getting better at what they call "pitch flying" and I'm working to smooth out my banked turns. However, outside of the basics which are numerous in the web, what can I do to challenge myself to improve my flying and control skills. I'm not truly interested in using a camera or FPV modes. Just pure acrobatics at this point. I do apologize if this was already mentioned someplace else in this forum. If it has, please link this thread so I can find it. Thanks!! ( did use the search function with minimal results).. Thanks for all your help all!.

Great links posted above. Those should help build up your mad skillz for flying line of sight. When you switch to FPV... you will be learning all over again though. A lot of what you learn LOS carries over.. but a lot is tossed out the window. Particularly orientation, when flying nose-in. I.E. When you fly LOS towards yourself, a lot of new RC pilots have to learn to 'steer into trouble' - where left is right, right is left, etc. It's something that takes practice, but eventually becomes second nature. When you go FPV though... all that is out the window. Right is always right.. left is always left. Point is - one of the most challenging parts of learning to fly has to be unlearned. Anyway - good luck. Again - the links already posted should help with LOS, and getting to the next level. Just keep in mind, that some of what you learn won't apply in FPV.

Get a CP heli.

The tutorials on this linked site may help also. Recommend following them sequentially as listed in the right column table of contents (best viewed on computer).

Go watch some of the videos posted in the Warp Quad thread.
In particular the ones from:
Soma
BoP
FG
ErHog
and a few others to see what can be done with an LOS Aerobatic copter.

Originally Posted by Brainstorm

Unihiron: The biggest and most important thing to learn is to fly in "acro mode," i.e. with self-leveling turned off. Does your X11 have an "acro mode?" That's the only way you will be able to have real control over your quad's flying, especially for aerobatics. Flying in "stability mode" is like learning to ride a bike with training wheels. It helps at first, but quickly becomes a limiting factor.

Here are some of the learning/training threads I have bookmarked for reference:

• Quad Beginner
• Learning Quad Flying -- Lesson Sequence
• Learning coordinated banked turns on quad
• ACRO MOVES for multicopter video list
• New pilot practice maneuvers?

Hope this helps.

I cannot disable stability mode. I'm aware that I have a lot to learn. I'm still in the "training wheels" mode in flying with self-leveling toy quads. I ordered a Hubsan X4 which is more twitchy than a Syma X11 but still I'm wearing training wheels. I will be checking links once I fully max my skills in the little "training wheels" But thanks for the overwhelming response from this community for a newbie!!!!

Originally Posted by UNIHIRON

I cannot disable stability mode. I'm aware that I have a lot to learn. I'm still in the "training wheels" mode in flying with self-leveling toy quads.

No worries, Unihiron! The little "toy" quads are the best way to learn, and most pilots start out with some level of stability aid. It does help in the beginning. Just wanted to make sure you understand that you will have to re-learn certain things when you move on to "acro mode." It sounds like you're already aware of that!

Also, starting in acro mode takes a lot of disciplined practice. I didn't really make any progress with acro mode until I forced myself to fly more. I started counting LiPos flown and using them as "credits" to post in the Warpquad thread to hold myself accountable. I'm still very much a beginner, trying to improve my banked turns, and hopefully progress to figure-eight and loops in the coming weeks.

I ordered a Hubsan X4 which is more twitchy than a Syma X11 but still I'm wearing training wheels. I will be checking links once I fully max my skills in the little "training wheels" But thanks for the overwhelming response from this community for a newbie!!!!

You asked an important question that doesn't get asked and answered enough! Keep flying, a lot!

FYI, the Acro Moves video thread has some new posts. I took the liberty of reviving it, because I needed the motivation and inspiration myself. Practice, practice, practice!

Originally Posted by Brainstorm

Unihiron: The biggest and most important thing to learn is to fly in "acro mode," i.e. with self-leveling turned off. Does your X11 have an "acro mode?" That's the only way you will be able to have real control over your quad's flying, especially for aerobatics. Flying in "stability mode" is like learning to ride a bike with training wheels. It helps at first, but quickly becomes a limiting factor.

Here are some of the learning/training threads I have bookmarked for reference:

• Quad Beginner
• Learning Quad Flying -- Lesson Sequence
• Learning coordinated banked turns on quad
• ACRO MOVES for multicopter video list
• New pilot practice maneuvers?

Hope this helps.

This more than helps!!!!

I built a Totem q330 and I've flown it in acro mode as well as lots of sim practice. I'm now looking at learning 3d flight with helis. I have a 450 size kit on order and I do lots of sim training and I fly a wltoys v977 at the field. I know I've abandoned the multirotors but I have gained a new hobby.

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That's great! Glad to hear you've transitioned to acro mode now. Sim practice certainly helps, especially with counter-intuitive stuff like flying nose-in, and upside down when you learn 3D. Top priority remains to practice often.

Keep on flying!