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Jul 08, 2004, 01:31 PM
Mark Triebes
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F5D Test Video


Hey Guys . . .

We've put up a small video on our website from one of our test sessions with the Cyclone . . . the video quality isn't great . . . we're still figuring out the many settings on the new camera. If nothing else, that great F5D sound is there for you to enjoy.

This is more or less a test of the website server . . . to see how quickly the video loads/plays, etc. Any feedback on your experiences with it would be greatly appreciated.

From the homepage, go to Products, and then to Cyclone . . . the video is on the very bottom of the page . . . just click on the play button.

www.acmeflyingmachines.net

Mark Triebes
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Jul 08, 2004, 01:59 PM
Spoooooon!
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Very impressive. What power system is in that thing?
Jul 08, 2004, 04:50 PM
Mark Triebes
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Test setup that day was a Himax 2825-6600 motor, CC Phoenix 80 controller, 7 GP3300's, and an APC 4.75 x 4.75 . . . pulls right around 100 amps and RPM just before the flight was right at 34000.

Mark Triebes
Jul 08, 2004, 07:10 PM
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A Himax???? What's the skinny on that thing? Will it last the distance?
Jul 08, 2004, 08:45 PM
Name it, I've crashed it
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Couldn't get the viceo to play in-line. Here is the link for anybody else having an issue.

http://acmeflyingmachines.homestead....cloneVideo.mpg

That is an awesome flight!!!
Jul 08, 2004, 10:17 PM
Spoooooon!
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So the phoenix 80 can handle 100amps continuous?
Jul 08, 2004, 10:24 PM
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I couldn't find the specs on the Himax 2825-6600. What would be the equivalent hacker or aveox?
Thanks!
Jul 08, 2004, 10:25 PM
Mark Triebes
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Yeah, a Himax . . . we were a bit surprised too . . . but very pleasantly surprised. I started out with their stock 5300 kv version . . . $69.00, how can you lose there . . . flew great on 10 and 12 cells, but wanted to try 7 cell setup so Greg K at Himax was very helpful in getting a 6600 kv version wound for me (in just about 2 weeks!!). That's what were flying now ... about 25 or so flights on it and it's still going strong. Greg has them working on a new, more efficient version that should have a kv of over 7000 . . . can't wait to get that one!

Mark
Jul 08, 2004, 10:31 PM
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I've heard rumors that the Phoenix 80 has been run continuously in the 120 amp range, but not sure if I'm willing to try that much with mine.

They are working on a new 150 amp version, so that will pretty much solve all our problems . . . if you're looking at anything above that, you pretty much gotta shell out the big bucks for one of the European controllers.

Greg at Himax had the 6600 kv motor specially wound for me, so it's not really one of their stock motors . . . they've been really helpful and I'd recommend their stuff to everyone.

Hacker's 5-turn FAI motor has a kv of around 6800, so it's pretty close . . . as far as I know, Aveox doesn't have anything in that range . . . I really liked their 27/26/1 for 10 to 12 cells . . . not a world-beater, but pretty darn good.

Mark
Jul 09, 2004, 06:24 AM
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Very impressive Mark!

The video loaded and played just fine for me. I'm using Netscape 7.1 BTW.

I'm also glad to see that there is a much less expensive motor available now. The Himax pulls the Cyclone quite well! Do you ever fly during the week? I'd love to come watch you fly it sometime.
Jul 10, 2004, 09:42 AM
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Will the wind a 6600kv for anyone and if so how much do they charge for it?
Jul 10, 2004, 08:02 PM
F5B, helis...too much

P80


I just got a P80. Used it on my B50 6S, 10x2600 NIMH, RFM 15x15. Static amp draw was 90 amps on the bench. For flying in my Victor, I used 10xGP3300. The ESC shut down several times during flight. I had to thermal a bit to cool it down and then it worked again. I did get a chance to do several F5b climbs and legs. Again it erratically went on and off. After landing, the batt and ESC were hot.

I wanted to work my way up to 120 amps using this setup (with larger prop), but it looks like this ESC ain't gonna do it. Any recommendations on a ESC?

tufnik
Jul 11, 2004, 08:20 PM
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Have you played with the programming?

Dave
Jul 11, 2004, 09:13 PM
F5B, helis...too much

P80


I went through the programming:

Changed cutoff voltage from 5.0V cutoff 6-8 cell to 6.0V cutoff 7-10 cells
Standard current limit (default)
Changed brake from soft delayed to Hard brake, no delay
Auto calibrate throttle (default)
Standard advance time (5-20 degrees) (default)
Hard cutoff (default)
Soft Start (default)
PWN switching rate of 11khz (default)

As you can see, I made only two changes. I haven't flown the new settings yet. Frankly, I don't see how my two changes will make a difference in the shut down problem I experienced.

tufnik
Jul 12, 2004, 05:05 PM
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You guys are kidding about turning a apc 4.75x4.75 prop on the plane in the video right.... 100 amps.... it's a typo right??

joe

Added later>
After checking it all out.... man it is pulling 100 amps, maybe 550~600 watts with a 4.75x4.75..... still seems tough to believe.
Last edited by wireit; Jul 12, 2004 at 05:15 PM. Reason: addin


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