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May 24, 2015, 07:38 PM
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Diatone Blade 150 & ET 150 quadcopter frames - OP UPDATED


This was brought to my attention in one of the mini brushless build threads. I've been wanting a micro brushless quad for ages, but have found the options wanting tbh. The SuperX isn't FPV specific, the Hermit has its downsides (expense, weight, power) but the recently announced RX122 and the another available (I forget the name) from oversky show more promise.

Anyhow, I emailed a contact at Diatone (thanks Sue!) to ask about the arms, and if I could get a diagram of the motor mounts, to see if they can be drilled out for 4 hole motor patterns and Sue was kind enough to offer a sample of the frame for review. Should be with me in a month or so. I'll detail what's included in the pack, thoughts about construction and potential mods and update the thread as and when I can.

I think my plan for a build hinges on RotorX 1104 motors at the minute, their custom 3" props should be interesting too. EDIT: New motors listed on BG, clones of RX1104s. Also clones of the RX3020 props now also on Banggood and others, sold in 4 pack

http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-1104...528682201404B8

Build plan with some links:
Flight Controller:
Afro Naze32 mini (have one spare) or maybe the CC3D Atom (never used one, but like Cleanflight)
Some new kids on the block EMAX Skyline Acro (35x35mm, with compass/mag) ~15/$22.99 and the smaller EMAX Skyline Mini (AfroNaze32/CC3D Atom clone) ~13/$19.99
Motors: RotorX RX1104 + custom 3" props or Eachine 1104 motors $11 or DYS BX1306 3100kv $21.59/pair on Banggood
Props - Gemfan 3030 CF props (for 1306 3100kv) $3.59/pair, 3020 RotorX Clone Props $1.99 for 4 pairs for BG1104 motors.
ESCs: DYS sn16a or DYS sn20a
PDB: Built in on PCB version (will add a 5/3.3v reg for FPV) or just a loom on carbon version
LEDs (included with PCB frame version, white and red I think) Not included Diatone LED strip $1.50
FPV:
Cam: 600tvl micro wide angle camera
VTX: Eachine 200 mw 5.8GHz with CP antenna
Battery: ? 600-800 3S

So, anyone else interested in building a quad with this frame? Any suggestions or requests?

NEW - 160mm frames on Banggood - 4" prop support as standard



Diatone ET 160 v1.0
- 2.5mm CF/30g - $19.88


Diatone Grasshopper 160mm - 2.5mm CF/28g - $18.99

Picture update to follow

[Glass fibre frame no longer has integrated PDB]
Blade 150 with PDB - glass fibre - 25.5g - $9.99


Blade 150 Carbon Fibre - with PDB/BEC - 20g - $16.39


Blade "ET 150" Carbon Fibre with PDB/BEC - 26g - $19.39


Blade 180 Carbon Fibre with PDB/BEC - 24g (?) - $17.67

Also of note


Blade "ET 180 V1" with PDB/BEC - 26g (?) - $19.70


Blade 200 Carbon Fibre with PDB/BEC - 27.5g - $18.75


Diatone ET 200 Carbon Fibre with PDB/BEC - 39g - $20.49

*OMG SO MANY FRAMES
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May 28, 2015, 01:30 PM
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V2.0 Compatible Frame Kit for Blade100~200

Compatible for 15/20mm Arm Hole
Modified the lightening hole shape
Upgraded BEC Power Distribution Board
Last edited by DIATONE.Danny; Jun 19, 2015 at 03:23 AM.
May 28, 2015, 02:22 PM
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This folks is why Diatone deserve our support. Danny and Sue, many thanks! Looking forward to getting my hands on one now!

Edit: Danny, that's great for my intended purpose. How will this work with the other motors (the SuperX) or will there be both versions?

Looking at the diagram, it looks like... wait for it... 1306 motors will fit Imagine this little beast with 1306s, high pitch 3" props and 3s!
Last edited by DebianDave; May 28, 2015 at 03:43 PM.
May 28, 2015, 05:24 PM
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I'd be interested in trying this with 4" props. I wouldn't be able to use the stock upper deck, but that's fine I'm currently flying a 166mm acrylic frame.

Could we have some info about the hole spacing on the bottom deck? Looks like it might mount up a standard 30.5mm sq. mounting pattern FC?

Could you also detail the thickness of the arms vs. main plate vs. upper?

Any current limitations for the PDB built in?
May 28, 2015, 07:56 PM
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4 inchers might be a problem, no?



It's late here and I can't be bothered to do any maths... but it looks like the motors are too close together for ~50mm radius props...

Edit: This is the 120mm version that we didn't know about, see below
Last edited by DebianDave; May 29, 2015 at 08:30 AM.
May 29, 2015, 01:14 AM
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This picture is Blade120 may banggood made a mistake.



This is Blade 150,Frame is common
May 29, 2015, 02:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdog4w
I'd be interested in trying this with 4" props. I wouldn't be able to use the stock upper deck, but that's fine I'm currently flying a 166mm acrylic frame.

Could we have some info about the hole spacing on the bottom deck? Looks like it might mount up a standard 30.5mm sq. mounting pattern FC?

Could you also detail the thickness of the arms vs. main plate vs. upper?

Any current limitations for the PDB built in?


yes,is standard 30.5mm

About electricity, using 1104 there is no problem
May 29, 2015, 08:33 AM
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Danny, do you have a schematic of the frame top down, as assembled? I'd like to overlay different propellers available on the market at the moment

Edit: How about 15 to 20 amps (burst)? Will the copper in the PDB handle that?
Last edited by DebianDave; May 29, 2015 at 08:43 AM.
May 29, 2015, 09:16 AM
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I am all over this when it arrives. I am holding out for those rotorx motors as well.
May 29, 2015, 10:52 AM
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I made a model of the frame with the (very) low res image posted by Danny as reference. It's incredibly rough but I like to visualise these things



Show here with a ~3" ish prop

edit

4" not happening, unless I have my scale wrong



Massive overlap front v rear
Last edited by DebianDave; May 29, 2015 at 11:00 AM.
May 29, 2015, 03:49 PM
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I ran a 155mm frame and it cleared fine... not sure how a 150 wouldn't. It should at least be closer!
May 29, 2015, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cdog4w


I ran a 155mm frame and it cleared fine... not sure how a 150 wouldn't. It should at least be closer!
It's not a perfect X quad, more along the lines of a H but not as elongated 3" should be fine if the numbers RotorX are quoting for their 1104 motors are achievable, and something like 1KG thrust (from 1306 + 4045) REALLY isn't needed (but would be fun!)

Edit: looking again at the RX122, it looks like they have swept the rear arms back to get enough clearance for 3" props on a 122mm frame. Would probably be trivial to do the same here, as the frame is fibreglass. There would still be some overlap with the body, but not much, and 1306 motors are quite "tall", so short spacers might allow you to run with a top plate too. ESCs, Pololu/BEC and FPV gear can take up very little space if you lay it out right
Last edited by DebianDave; May 29, 2015 at 04:59 PM.
May 29, 2015, 05:00 PM
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Like so





Note, pivoting the arm around the first frame hole. Drill a second hole and Bob's your aunty

With a bit of messing about, you could achieve the same kind of profile as the RX122 and use the stock front arm mounting holes



e2: I know the arms aren't pointing the right way, cba to flip them. The spacing should be symmetrical anyway
Last edited by DebianDave; May 29, 2015 at 05:19 PM.
May 30, 2015, 03:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DebianDave
Danny, do you have a schematic of the frame top down, as assembled? I'd like to overlay different propellers available on the market at the moment

Edit: How about 15 to 20 amps (burst)? Will the copper in the PDB handle that?
Hi Debian,Blade150 can only use 3 prop /smilie
May 30, 2015, 03:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DebianDave
I made a model of the frame with the (very) low res image posted by Danny as reference. It's incredibly rough but I like to visualise these things



Show here with a ~3" ish prop

edit

4" not happening, unless I have my scale wrong



Massive overlap front v rear
This is an easy thing, I design a Arm for suitable 4 'prop

or used upside down
Last edited by DIATONE.Danny; May 30, 2015 at 05:43 AM.