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Dec 07, 2014, 01:59 PM
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LeVier Cosmic Wind

I'm getting ready to start a Cosmic wind build so I thought I would post up some drawings I have, and hope others will post what they have.
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Dec 15, 2014, 02:55 PM
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I got some interesting photos of Ballerina, as it appeared in British registry some years back. PM if interested. Would be cool to get them posted here.

Paul Plecan did a CL scale model and plan for Air Trail's, IIRC. This design was later kitted by Berkeley. John Underwood felt Plecan's effort was quite accurate, supplying me with a copy for further scale drawing work!! I believe Plecan probably based his model on the last drawing you posted, above.

Good looking aircraft! And... I like that particular drawing (attached files: Cosmic Wind)
Sep 18, 2016, 12:32 PM
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Cosmic Wind "Ballerina" in Great Britain. Don't know where A/C is now. I've got a date somewhere, but...? photo via M. Salo

Cosmic Wind "Little Toni", 1956 Whiteman Airpark, Pacoima, CA.
photo via J. Underwood.

Goodyear races held at San Jose's Reid Hill View Airport, 1950-51(?).
Found a negative I believe showing my older brother sitting on N20C's wheel and tire. Now, just have to find somebody to make a print!

IIRC, there is a third Cosmic wind, that had a shoulder mounted wing.
Sep 18, 2016, 01:48 PM
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Cosmic Wind "Ballerina" is still in UK, rebuilt after its 1966 crash, and frequently appears at air shows, there. I think the next one is:

Google finds many recent photos. Here's a few:
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Sep 19, 2016, 12:13 AM
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Don't forget one of these planes (N36C) was converted to mid-wind configuration in the '50s.
Sep 19, 2016, 01:55 PM
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Thanks for link, pertime!
Can't get over how much the ship looks like a model, in the color shots. I particularly like the way the light shows the point to point skinning. Drawings typically show compound curves where none exist. To be sure there are compound curves in the cowl, wheel pants and and fillets, but the basic fuselage is rather simple compilation of simple shapes.

Thanks too, Steve_P
I've been to Planes of Fame several times and never noticed that midwing Cosmic wind display. Is it real or a mock up? BTW- "my/our" (Dawn Patrol Aviation) Gee Bee R-1 mock up is just out of frame to rt of Deperudussin on floats, behind the Shoestring display.
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Sep 19, 2016, 10:55 PM
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The information I have is that N36C was originally raced by Herman "Fish" Salmon as #4 Minnow (N22C) in 1948, and it was a real Cosmic Wind. A discussion of its history is at:
Aug 25, 2017, 01:24 AM
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Hi Chaps,
Here is my Cosmic Wind "Ballerina" , built to quarter scale in 1982...............I still have the model in a flyable, but scruffy, condition today.
It has survived many house moves over the years.
Aug 25, 2017, 07:04 AM
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Is that your model in the taxi shot? I seldom swoon over photo captions that claim it look just like the real thing, but that "looks pretty convincing" to me...... Hey....

Boy, you can sure see/appreciate the hard edges of the contour changes at front and rear of cockpit, in that photo
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Nov 20, 2017, 11:49 AM
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Got to wondering about Cosmic Wind airfoils and noticed the various drawings are at odds with photos of tip airfoil. Anyone got the 'gen' on that?
Jan 07, 2018, 04:45 PM
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They have a bit of under camber at the tips of the airfoil.
The rebuilds vary from a little to a lot as far as exact surface detail and overall shape. Ballerina rebuild has a straight, and not so pleasing upper cowling surface outline compared to the gentle arcing slope as originally built, for instance.
Jan 08, 2018, 12:15 PM
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There's a curve where?
Apr 19, 2018, 10:07 AM
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Re: Ballerina out line

Anyone know what's being seen at lower fuselage profile just aft of wing in this video:
Shuttleworth Race Day Air Display 2016 (11 min 55 sec)

at 20-30 seconds in?

Is it the wing to fuselage filleting or repaired damage. It sure looks to be rather incongruous to me.
Jul 18, 2018, 09:08 PM
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I'm building up a Great Planes Cosmic Wind as Minnow. Took me forever to find a kit. The model uses NACA airfoil 0012, per Bridi. I don't have the foam cores but I do have the kit plans. I had 2 of these back in the 80s and I just love the design and how it flys. Here are a couple rare photos a member of the Society of Air Racing Historians sent me. These are the only color photos I've seen.

CW1 by jim harley, on Flickr

Fish and his Minnow
CW2 by jim harley, on Flickr

The final incarnation of Minnow. This is a long story but after Cleveland ended she was given a "barndoor" wing and was flown at Reno before being donated to Planes of Fame. The fuselage and wing of Minnow was highly modified for a government project that never panned out. There is a rumor that it still survives in Oklahoma, the history is sketchy at best, as there is another rumor that it made its way to England with the other Cosmic Wind airframes.

13754604_10206482429122372_991712633037262722_n by jim harley, on Flickr
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Jul 18, 2018, 10:11 PM
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Great shots! thanks for sharing!

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