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Nov 01, 2014, 10:31 AM
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WC F3F 2016 in Denmark?


Dear friends,

Denmark is making a bid for the 2016 World Championship in F3F. Like in the process when we bid for the 2013 WC F3K, we will try to inform you the best as we can. The descision is yours for voting at the CIAM meeting in the spring 2015.

We held our first meeting today. More info will follow soon

Cheers

Erik Dahl Christensen
Denmark
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Nov 01, 2014, 12:25 PM
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Here are the ideas we are working on so far. This post will be edited during the proces as we get smarter, hopefully with your help => tune in and let us know what you think. We listen but we do not nescecarylly obey wishes

Information and comunication:
We will try to reveal information as soon and as precisely as possible. So far this thread will be our comunication and dialog with you. Later a facebook site and a webpage will occur together with of course the old fashioned email
wE are open for sugestion, good advice, and will try to do the best we can to make a good event for you to remember.

Competition dates and site:
We plan on running the contest in the week 40 / primo october 2016 in the North western part of jutland, Denmark. The venue is choose because especially the city of Hanstholm is on a elevated platau with slopes in many directions and primarily with Wind from the sea and therefor less influenced by thermals. Other slopes in the North western part of Jutland will also probably be used (Mors, Bovbjerg, etc.).

ideas for a proposed Schedule:
week 39:
Early arrival
weekend ending week 39: registration, processing, possibility of official training (to make sure that WE are 100%ready), and oppening ceremony. No World cup nor Eurotour will be made to start the WC. The reason is that we feel that some hours of official training is sufficient time to make sure that we are game, and that the time is better, spent flying more days at the WC.

Week 40 - WC F3F 2016
Monday -Friday:
20:00 The evening before, the slope for next days flying will be published on the webpage, with GPS coordinates, driving advice, pictures of the slope, map of the slope, information of the "infrasturcture" of the slope = how we do the setup at that particular slope.
8:00 the slope is setup by officials
8:30 briefing
9:00 start of flying
17:00 no new groups are started
etc.
saturday - the same schedule but no new rounds are started after 15:00
closing ceremony

Other stuff:
We plan on making an exhibition of old and older Danish F3F planes to show and describe the evolution from slope contest in the 60ties and 70ties - the first officialy published Danish rules the looks very semilar to those today are from the Danish magazine "RC-information" april 1978.

Accomodation:
Vigsø is a great place and other possibilities are beeing investigated

So far we are (and more will follow - you?) :
Knud Hebsgaard, F3F pilot and Danish F3F coordinator and member of the Danish soaring subcomitee
Søren Krogh, F3F/F3B/F3J pilot and Danish F3B and F3J coordinator and member of the Danish soaring subcomitee
Jesper Christensen, F3F pilot
Ivan, F3F pilot
Preben Noerholm, former danish soaring coordinator and former Danish elite chairman, originator of F3F and Viking Race
Regnar Petersen, F3J pilot, former Danish elite chairman, organiser and Event Director of WC F3K 2013, member of the Danish soaring subcomitee
Ruben Sonne, F3K pilot, organiser of and in charge of sound systems at WC F3K 2013
Peter Vestergaard, scale pilot, organiser and in charge of WiFi etc. at the WC F3K 2013
Arne Bruun, F3J pilot, organiser of numerus Danish and Nordic F3J contests
Peter Mikkelsen, former F3B and F3J pilot, webmaster of the Danish national model aeroclub "Modelflyving Danmark"´s webpage and forum, Web master at the WC F3K 2013, web, member of the Danish soaring subcomitee
Erik Dahl Christensen, F3K pilot, Chaiman of the Danish soaring subcomitee, organiser of and Contest Director at the WC F3K 2013

cheers
Erik Dahl Christensen
Denmark
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Nov 01, 2014, 02:02 PM
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Great news and you have a lot of experience with the competitions at Hanstholn.

Cheers
Daniel
Nov 01, 2014, 05:23 PM
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... and usually more wind than in Donovaly :

I press thumbs!
Nov 02, 2014, 02:13 PM
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Nice! That would be fun!
Nov 03, 2014, 06:33 AM
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I can understand the reasons that you don't want to do a pre-comp but on the other hand it is a good possibility for pilots which are not qualified to meet and fly with all the pilots and friends from all over the world...

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Daniel
Nov 03, 2014, 07:53 AM
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I can understand the reasons that you don't want to do a pre-comp but on the other hand it is a good possibility for pilots which are not qualified to meet and fly with all the pilots and friends from all over the world...

Cheers
Daniel
Hi Daniel,
Thank your for tuning in. We appreciate it very much.
Our concern is among others based on the WC F3F 2014 where very few rounds were flown due to very Little wind. We do of course hope for good wind all the time in Hanstholm and the surrounding areas in 2016, but feel that ensuring as much possible slope flying time for the WC must be 1. priority.

cheers
Erik
Nov 04, 2014, 05:25 AM
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Hi Erik,
wow - a truly brave project for you, but for sure it will go well.
And coming back to roots of F3f - to the initiating Viking Race grounds - this is nice and historic.
The concept looks sound and surely not doing a "pre-competion" in the end is in favor of the WC pilots and their practice possibilities.
Good success,
Cheers Peter
Nov 27, 2014, 02:17 AM
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We know that a few has been unsecure wheather Denmark has made a bid or not, for the WC F3F 2016. Please feel free to communicate the following to those you speak to:

The danish organisation, "Modelflyvning Denmark" has made a bid to CIAM for the World Championship F3F 2016.

We have mailed our bid on the 12th of november to CIAM via KDA (Kongelig Dansk Aeroklub ).

Via Christine Rousson, Competitions Manager FAI, we have recieved confirmation 26th of november, that the bid has been recieved and transmitted to CIAM.

Yours sincerely

Erik Dahl Christensen
Chairman of the Danish soaring subcomitee
Organiser of WC F3F 2016
Nov 27, 2014, 02:49 PM
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F3F nostalgia


I'm putting Astrid to sleep and reading an old issue from the 70'ties of the danish magazine: "RC-information":

http://svendahl.dk/thyrc/RC%20inform...%201978%20.pdf

2 things catch my eyes.

1st:
In the center (pp 14-15) there is a pull-out with the danish rules for aerobatic (pull-out pp 2-6) and in the aerobatic pull-out there is another pull-out without page numbers! It's the danish rules for slope soaring written by Preben Norholm. Basicly the rules state that you shall fly at least 1000m on a course that is between 75 and 150 meters, preferably 100 meters

2nd:
On page 13-15 there is Preben's description of a variant of Graupners Cirrus from 1969. The variant used a Cirrus fuselage from "Fiberlin" (Ernst Topp, Germany). This fuselage as apps. 5 cm longer than Graupners and made the rudder more powerful. This coupled with an all flying rudder and a super-strong built-up wing with the airfoil Eppler 374 (with a transition to the root airfoil "Aquilla" . This hot plane ruled the slope contests in scandinavia from 1973-76 and because it from then on, wasn't fast enough for slope contests, Preben used it in Scandinavian thermal contest from 1975-78 and with an unofficial goal distance record of 10 km 1977.
Empty weight 1,8-1,9 kg + ballast! The article ends with a nice picture of young Preben landing his "Norsk Skrænt Cirrus".

From 1976/77 the danish competition planes in both slope and thermal competitions changed to more compact "rotation controlled" planes (pitcheron wings but only aileron wise): Epsilon and Unica. Both used Eppler 374 and 2 meter span in the slope version and Eppler 193 and 2,8 meter span in the thermal versions. These models lasted to around the middle of the 80'ties on the slopes when more conventional models with both ailerons and snap flaps!!! conquered the scene, and app. 1980 and forward in the F3B/ thermal scene when models like Multiplex's Flamingo, Eismanns Fokus and Gentron, Simprops Optima (Ralph Decker) and models like them changed the scene.

We hope to have some of these old slope models or replicas on display (or maybe even flying) at the WC F3F 2016

Bjorn Krogh and Epsilon on the right:
http://www.modelflyvning.dk/forum/sh...1&postcount=14

2 of Knud Hammerkens Unica's on the left and a bunch of happy team Unica project pilots on the right:
http://www.modelflyvning.dk/forum/sh...&postcount=101

In this article on page 14-15 about the Unica, your can see how the wingrotation mechanism was made:
http://modelflyvenyt2.dk/modelflyven...201%201978.pdf

cheers
Erik Dahl Christensen
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Feb 18, 2015, 01:57 PM
On a small rock in a big pond
Small glimpse of what was flown at Hanstholm in 1973!

Brg.,
Sverrir

1973 F3F/F3B Nordic Championship in Denmark (12 min 49 sec)
Apr 25, 2015, 09:04 AM
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World Championship F3F 2016 awarded to Denmark! ☺
Jun 24, 2015, 02:09 AM
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Dear friends,

The dates for the World championship F3F 2016 will stay as we stated them in post #2. So will most of the details we posted.

A website will be available: http://www.wcf3f.dk/
We will not launch the website untill we have put real info into it. We could launch the front page, but without any real information, we feel that the tease will not be worth it, therefor we will wait untill we are ready. I will post here when it will be laundhed.

Untill then you have the information in post #2.

cheers
Erik
Feb 25, 2016, 06:42 AM
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Bulletin 1


Hi all

We are sorry to keep you waiting for informations, but bulletin 1 should be due in a few days.
Feb 25, 2016, 10:46 AM
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Hi all

We are sorry to keep you waiting for informations, but bulletin 1 should be due in a few days.
Thank you Regnar:-)


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