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Oct 13, 2014, 08:03 PM
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352nd FG "Bluenosed Bastards of Bodney" in models


This thread for all enthusiasts who like and would like to know about legendary Fighter Group.
In this thread you will find pictures and description of almost any airplane belong to 352nd Fighter Group(P-47"Thunderbolt",P-51B(C),D and K "Mustang")
We are welcome anybody to this group (electric,nitro,gas)
One big request.PLEASE do not mix with any other airplanes are not related to this group.
Thank you!
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Oct 13, 2014, 08:18 PM
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My first"Bluenoser" Parkzone P-51D "Mustang"
Oct 13, 2014, 10:57 PM
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352nd Fighter Group

HISTORY:

Constituted as 352d Fighter Group on 29 Sep 1942. Activated on 1 Oct 1942. Served as part of the air defense force fc the US while training with P-47's for duty overseas. Moved to England, Jun-Jul 1943. Assigned to Eighth AF. Operated against the enemy in air combat over Europe from Sep 1943 to May 1941 using P-47's before converting to P-51's in Apr 1944. Flew numerous escort missions to cover the operations of bombers that attacked factories, V-weapon sites, submarine pens, and other targets on the Continent. Escorted bombers that struck German aircraft factories during Big Week, 20-25 Feb 1944. Received a DUC for performance in Germany on 8 May 1944: while escorting bombers to targets in Brunswick, the group routed an attack by a numerically superior force of German interceptors and then continued the battle against the enemy planes until lack of ammunition and shortage of fuel forced the group to withdraw and return to its base. Also flew counter-air patrols, and on many occasions strafed and dive-bombed airfields, locomotives, vehicles, troops, gun positions, and various other targets. Supported the invasion of Normandy in Jun 1944 by strafing and dive-bombing enemy communications, assisted the Allies in breaking through the German line at St Lo in Jul, and participated in the airborne attack on Holland in Sep. After the Germans launched a counteroffensive in the Ardennes in Dec 1944, the group's planes and pilots were sent to Belgium and placed under the control of Ninth AF for operations in the Battle of the Bulge (Dec 1944-Jan 1945). During that battle, on 1 Jan 1945, action by the detachment earned for the group the French Croix de Guerre with Palm: just as 12 of the detachment's lanes were taking off for an area patrol, the airdrome was attacked by about 50 German fighters; in the aerial battle that followed, the 352d shot down almost half the enemy planes without losing any of its own. In Feb 1945 the remainder of the group joined the detachment in Belgium for operations under the control of Eighth AF. While based on the Continent, the group participated in the airborne assault across the Rhine (Mar 1945). Returned to England in Apr and continued operations until a few days before V-E Day. Returned to the US in Nov. Inactivated on 10 Nov 1945.

Redesignated 113th Fighter Group. Allotted to ANG (DC) on 24 May 1946. Extended federal recognition on 2 Nov 1946. Ordered to active duty on 1 Feb 1951. Assigned to Air Defense Command. Redesignated 113th Fighter-Interceptor Group. Used F-84's during 1951; converted to F-94 aircraft in 1952. Inactivated on 6 Feb 1952. Relieved from active duty, returned to control of ANG (DC) and activated, on 1 Nov 1952. Redesignated 113th Fighter-Bomber Group in Dec 1952.

SQUADRONS:

121st: 1951-1952.
142d: 1951-1952.
148th: 1951-1952. 328th: 1942-1945.
486th (formerly 21st): 1942-1945.
487th (formerly 34th): 1942-1945.

STATIONS:

Mitchel Field, NY, 1 Oct 1942
Bradley Field, Conn, Oct 1942
Westover Field, Mass, Nov 1942
Trumbull Field, Conn, c. 15 Jan 1943
Republic Field, NY, c. 9 Mar-Jun 1943
Bodney, England, 7 Jul 1943
Chievres, Belgium, c. 27 Jan 1945
Bodney, England, c. 14 Apr-3 Nov 1945
Camp Kilmer, NJ, c. 9-10 Nov 1945.
Andrews AFB, Md, 1 Feb 1951
New Castle County Aprt, Del, 16 Feb 1951-6 Feb 1952.

COMMANDERS:

Lt Col Edwin M Ramage, c. Oct 1942
Col Joe L Mason, 17 May 1943
Col James D Mayden, 17 Nov 1944-unkn.
Col Joseph Myers, 1951-unkn.

CAMPAIGNS:

Air Offensive, Europe; Normandy; Northern France; Rhineland; Ardennes-Alsace; Central Europe.

DECORATIONS:

Distinguished Unit Citation: Brunswick, Germany, 8 May 1944. French Croix de Guerre with Palm: 1 Jan 1945.
Oct 14, 2014, 12:02 AM
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"This Is It"


I really like to know who was the pilot of this P-51 and some history of the individual plane. I had this Airfix plastic model and like the paintjob of this P-51 very much. My next RC P-51 will have these colours.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...nes/P-51D1.jpg

Cincerely Yours

Timo
Oct 14, 2014, 12:42 AM
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This is what i have found about this plane

1. 44-13395 P-51D 486 PZ-M "This Is It" pilot-Col. Joseph L.Mason.
Lost 29 July 44 - Maj. Gustav E "Gus" Lundquist POW

2. 44-14911 P-51D 486 PZ-M "This Is It" pilot-Col. Joseph L.Mason.

NAA Type: P-51D-25NA
Serial #: 44-73454
Registry: N2051D
.. past: N6172C

1963: N6172C, Ligonier Flying Service Inc, Ligonier IN
1966: N6172C, sale, Champion Developers Inc, Jacksonville, FL
1967: May 14, crashed, Jacksonville FL
1968: N2051D, sale, Cavalier Aircraft Corp., Sarasota FL, Cavalier conversion
1968: N2051D, sale, Rufus Applegarth, Plymoth Meeting PA
1972: N2051D, sale, John Schaufhausen, Spokane WA
1973: N2051D, sale, Richard Bach
1973: Sep 24, crash, ground-looped, Midland TX, Richard Bach - rebuilt to stock, Gordon Plaskett
1976: N2051D, sale, John Herlihy, Montara CA
1984: Apr 16, N2051D, sale, Richard Bjelland, Dairy OR
- Seen around some northern Cal. airshows
2007: airshow, Marysville CA Fly-In
2010: N2051D, sale, Paul Besterveld, Camarillo CA, restoration as polished "This is It" in Camarillo Ca.
2010: Nov, Engine runs soon, should be flying by 2011
2012: restoration-complete, polished blue noser "This is It!"
2013: moved, Corpus Christi TX
2013: Dec 19, N2051D, General Aircraft Services LLC
Oct 14, 2014, 01:21 AM
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Thank you very much Alrus1!
Oct 14, 2014, 01:40 PM
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2014 352nd FG reunion


2014 Huntsville AL.352nd FGA reunion. Flight show. (7 min 37 sec)
Oct 15, 2014, 12:28 AM
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More from the Reunion


Past reunions obviously had a larger attendance, and as part of each years 3 day reunion at least one day featured a visit to either an air museum or hanger to at least see a real P-51. In some cases, we actually had flight performances by real P-51s.

Sadly as time moves on, so do our veterans. Attendance has grown smaller, and so has the need and ability to provide extravagant reunion tours. While we strive to provide entertainment for those attending, the expense of having real P-51s perform is becoming too great. As an alternative, Alrus1 devised the idea of flying RC "Bluenosers" at the reunions. This was our first attempt, and fortunately it was very successful. With the help of the Rocket City Radio Controllers Club of Huntsville, AL it happened. And the rain stopped 5 minutes before arrival, and started again as we loaded the last two aircraft, but we were able to give the veterans and members of the 352nd FG Association a taste of how we "RC pilots" keep their memory alive.

Of the RC P-51s attending, they go as follows:

16 total P-51s.
1 - Hanger 9 (gas)
1 - E-Flite mini
1 - FMS 800mm
1 - FMS 1700mm
12 - FMS 1450mm

Of the 16, 14 were FMS. Of the 14, 12 were 1450mm. Of those 12, 9 were historically accurate Bluenosers. Of those 9, 4 were P-51Bs, the rest were P-51Ds. Two of the B models represented a veteran in attendance of the reunion. Punchy missed the flying demo but Jim Butler was able to meet up with him later at the hotel.

Here's some more pics of our "Flying Tribute" RC team aircraft. Our FMS 1450mm demo pilots were: Derik "Moonbeam" Rinehart, Aleksey "Alrus1" Lomov, Keith "Rhino5" Rinehart, Jim "WVRailfan" Butler, and Gavin "?" Woodruff. We also had a member of the RCRC club who flew a 1450mm "Frankie" with the sound system in a later performance.
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Oct 15, 2014, 09:25 PM
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Some more History of the 352nd FG


Visit this link: (This is our Association)
http://www.352ndfightergroup.com/assoc/main.html

Like one of America's mighty rivers, the 352nd FG had its beginnings in the merging of smaller units into a superb fighting force which would account for 776 enemy aircraft destroyed, fourth among all 8th Air Force units.

The 352nd Fighter Group was constituted in Sept 1942 and activated at Brandley Field, CT on October 1, 1942. Two of its squadrons, the 21st (later changed to the 486th) and the 34th (later changed to the 487th) had long combat histories, but like the newly formed 328th, were short on experienced personnel. Early flight training in the P-47 Thunderbolts was at Westover, Trumbell, LaGuardia and Mitchel fields. Most of the enlisted personnel, Det. "A" of the 1st Service Group arrived in January, 1943.

The Group embarked from New York harbor July 1, 1943, arriving in Scotland July 5th and a few days later reached their new base at Bodney, England. Training for combat became intense those next few months.

The Group flew its first combat mission on September 9, 1943, an uneventful sweep out over the North Sea to escort returning B-17s. Some 40 pilots participated in this mission. Although the 352nd had several minor encounters with the enemy in their early missions, it wasn't until November 26th that Major J. C. Meyer, C.O. of the 487th Squadron scored their first victory-an Me-109 attacking the bombers near Gronigen-the first of many victories for the 352nd.

During WWII the 352nd flew 420 missions, 59,387 operational combat hours, destroyed 776 enemy aircraft and had 29 aerial aces. Returning to the U.S. at war's end, the unit was deactivated.

Highlights and Outstanding Achievements of the 352nd FG

Among leading aces of the AAF and USAF in both WWII and the Korean War, 352nd pilots Col J.C. Meyer ranks second; Major Bill Whisner ranks fifth; and Lt Col Ed Heller ranks nineteenth. Whisner was one of only seven pilots that became an ace in both WWII and the Korean War.

Among the leading Allied air aces of WWII, two 352nd pilots, Major George Preddy and Col J.C. Meyer ranked sixth and seventh.

The 352nd can claim more "aces in a day" with five victories on one mission than any other Mustang group in either theater. George Preddy (six Me109's), Don Bryan (five FW190's), Carl J. Luksic (four FW190's, one Me109), and William T. Whisner (five FW190's) led the way.

The top two Mustang aces were Major George E Preddy, Jr. with 23.83 aerial victories in the P-51 and Col. J.C. Meyer with 21 Mustang victories. Maj. Preddy scored three more victories in a P-47D for a total of 26.83, and Col. Meyer also scored three in a P-47D for a total of 24.

Seven 352nd pilots became "ground aces in a day", destroying five or more in ground attacks.

Twelve 352nd pilots scored aerial victories over German jet fighters.

Twenty-nine of the USAAF's aerial aces over Europe were 352nd pilots.

Ten 352nd pilots were awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, the 2nd highest U.S. combat award. Col J.C. Meyer receiving the DSC three times and Captain Bill Whisner twice. Lt Ed Heller got the DSC for setting the 8th AF strafing record.

Seven 352nd pilots continued their military careers and attained the rank of General. One of these, Col J. C. Meyer, the only fighter pilot in WWII to attain four-star rank, commanded the Strategic Air Command and later became the Vice Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force. The seven Generals from the 352nd were: John C. Meyer, Luther Richmond, Sanford Moats, Bill Pattillo, Buck Pattillo, Glenn Moran, and Gustav Lundquist.

Twin-brothers Bill and Buck Pattillo, both pilots in the 352nd, later flew with the first USAF Thunderbird team. Both went on to attain General rank.

One 352nd squadron was the only 8th Air Force Squadron to be awarded a Distinguished Unit Citation. This award came after a mission flown from a Belgian airfield during Operation Bodenplatte when 12 pilots of the 487th, led by Colonel Meyer, shot down 24 attacking German fighters without a loss while under a strafing attack on takeoff.

The 486th Squadron participated in the first "Shuttle Mission" flown by the 8th AF from England to Russia to Italy to England escorting bombers to targets en-route. On this mission, Lt. Ed Heller scored the longest range fighter victory of the war with a victory over Poland.
Oct 15, 2014, 09:28 PM
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The ACEs of the 352nd FG


Yes folks.... 29 aces!!!!!! Not bad considering they were the youngest group in the 8th AF as far as combat hours.

Aces of the 352nd Fighter Group

Major George E Preddy, Jr. 26.83 Cripes A'Mighty (P-47D), Cripes A'Mighty ("B" model Mustang), Cripes A'Mighty 3rd and Cripes A'Mighty( "D" Model Mustangs)

Col John C Meyer 24 Lambie, Petie 2nd, Petie 3rd

Captain John F Thornell 17.25 Pattie Ann

Captain William T Whisner 15.5 Princess Elizabeth, Moonbeam McSwine

Major Donald S Bryan 13.33 Little One, Little One II, Little One III

Lt Glennon T Moran 13 Miss Ann

Captain Raymond H Littge 10 Silver Dollar, E Pluribus Unum, Miss Helen

Lt Col William T Halton 10 Slender, Tender, & Tall

Lt Virgil K Meroney 9 Sweet Louise, Sweet Louise II

Major Steven W Andrew 9 Prairie Farmer/Spirit of Los Angeles City College

Captain Charles J Cesky 8.5 Diann Ruth, Diann Ruth II

Lt Carl J Luksic 8.5 Lucky Boy, Elly's Lucky Boy

Captain Sanford S Moats 8.5 Kay, Kay III

Lt Col Everett W Stewart ** 7.83 Sunny IV, The Margarets

Lt Henry J Mkilajcyk 7.5 The Syracusan, Syracusan the 3rd

Lt Frank A Cutler 7.5 Soldier's Vote

Walter E. Starck 7 Lucia, Starck Mad (L) Even Stevens (R)

Captain Clarence Johnson** 7 Bula B VI

Lt Col Willie O Jackson 7 Hot Stuff

Lt Francis W Horne 5.5 Hi Yo Silver, Snoots' Sniper

Captain Edwin L Heller 5.5 Happy, Hell-er Bust

Captain William J Stangel 5 Stinky 2nd

Lt Earl R Lazear 5 Pennie's Earl

Captain Clayton E Davis 5 Marjorie, Marjorie II

Lt Ernest O Bostrom 5 Little Marjie

Captain Alexander Sears 5 The Sheepherder

Captain Duerr H Schuh 5 Duchess

Col Joe L Mason 5 This is it

Lt Alden Rigby 5 Eleen & Jerry

** Scored some victories with other Groups
Oct 15, 2014, 10:32 PM
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Stories of the 352nd FG


Links to various stories about the achievements of the 352nd FG:

http://www.352ndfightergroup.com/assoc/main.html

The Legend of Y-29:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...on-Bodenplatte

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../1049756/posts


Maj. George E. Preddy:

http://www.aviation-history.com/airmen/preddy.htm
Oct 15, 2014, 11:39 PM
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My Bluenose RC P-51s


Here are the Bluenosers I've had over time. Some are gone, some are still flying. Two of them are less than 2 yrs. old, and will be flying this weekend at our clubs annual Warbird Day event:
Oct 16, 2014, 04:39 PM
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My favorite pilot


Lt. Col. Donald Bryan - Pilot / Ace

328th Fighter Squadron, 352nd Fighter Group

A Distinguished Veteran



Donald Bryan received a private pilots license in college from the Civilian Pilots Training program. His flight training was 39 hours in a 65 hp Aranca. He joined the Army Air Corp on January 6, 1943, and began his Air Corp training in PT-17s at King City, California. He took his basic training at Moffet Field, California, and advance training at Luke Field, Arizona. He was commissioned six months and twenty days after entering the service. His first station was Morris Field, South Carolina, in the 79th Fighter Squadron of the 20th Fighter Group. He soloed in the P-40 (specifications) two days before he could legally buy a drink. He stayed with the unit until after it moved to Pinellas Army Air Field, Florida, as an instructor in P-40s and P-39s, until he was transferred to the 328th Fighter Squadron of the 352nd Fighter Group. He was assigned as a flight leader flying P-47s (specifications). The 352nd FG was transferred to Bodney, England, in June, 1943. He flew with the group on its first combat mission in September, 1943, in his P-47D-2 “Little One”, named after his girlfriend Frances Norman. In April, 1944, he transitioned in P-51s (specifications). He flew his first mission in a P-51 after one hour of training. He completed his first combat tour in May, 1944, and returned to the United States on R&R. He returned to the 328th FS in August, 1944, after marrying the original “Little One”. He became an ace in October, 1944, after destroying two ME-109s in “Little One III”. He ended the war as a double ace, with 13.34 air-to-air victories, which comprised of nine ME-109s, five of which he shot down in one day, two FW-190s, an ME-110, and one AR-234 jet bomber. “I think that I’m the luckiest leader in the Group. I flew 140 combat missions, and I never lost a wingman”. He received the Distinguished Service Cross, second only to the Congressional Medal of Honor, the Distinguished Flying Cross with two oak leaf clusters, and the Air Medal with 14 oak leaf clusters. He served in the Air Force for 23 years, and retired as a Lt. Col., with the F-86 Sabre the last fighter jet he flew.
don bryan signing the lithograph.
Don Bryan signing "Full House - Aces High"

Five in One Day
don bryan in 1944 photo.“The P-40 was the hardest plane to fly. Every landing was the start of three ground loops, first left, then right, then left (you hoped) before the plane would settle down. We called it the ‘Ground loop recovery’. At Pinellas during one training mission, my student and I got into a ‘friendly’ dogfight against each other. I had turned into him and was about ready to ‘gun’ him, when suddenly, he vanished from my sight. I eventually found him, and we engaged again. Once again, I was able to turn in on him and was about to gun him, when again he vanished. That was it. We flew straight back to base, and once I landed and taxied my plane, I got out and walked right over to his plane. I had to know what he had done in order to vanish so quickly. He called it the ‘inverted vertical reverse’. When I was about to gun him, he had his plane to the point where it was about to stall. He would then pull back on the stick as hard as he could, apply full left rudder, and then pushed the stick forward. You sure experienced a lot of negative Gs doing this maneuver. The torque of the engine prop flipped the plane around and he would vanish. This maneuver would later play an important role on the day I shot down five enemy fighters. On November 2, 1944, I first damaged two ME-109s, then preceded to shoot down three ME-109s in pretty quick succession. Then I encountered ‘THE ACE’! I don’t know what that German was flying because his plane was hotter than any ME-109 I had encountered. My P-51D was the fastest Mustang in the 352nd FG, (my crew chief did some ‘magic’ that hopped up the engine). Whoever this German was, he was good, very good, and he was getting close to clobbering me. I did the ‘inverted vertical reverse’, and lost him. I didn’t go back looking for him. It took a while for me to calm down, but I engaged two more ME-109s and got them, the last one with only one gun firing. The entire engagement lasted only 15 to 20 minutes.”

The Legend of Y29
photo of don bryan's aircraft.“While we were stationed at Y-29 in Belgium during the Battle of the Bulge, I don’t think there was a hotter fighter group on the planet! I checked the records, and our newest pilot in the 328th had 190 combat hours, and the second newest had 210 combat hours. Each wihgman and element knew exactly what to do. The problem wasn’t getting pilots to fly, it was telling them they couldn’t fly. They all wanted to fly, especially missions that looked like they had the potential for enemy action. Our air-to-air victory ration while at Y-29 was 79 to 1. At Y-29, there was a bunch of junked airplanes at one end of the field, including a B-17 and P-61 Black Widow. We went over to the junked planes and removed the fuel. We set tanks on stands outside our tents and ran copper tubing from the fuel tanks into our tent stoves. We had 110-octane gas drip on the fire to help keep us warm. On January 1st, I was in the Ops tent, when we first saw flak bursts to the east. J C Meyers was starting his take-off roll with three flights when the Germans started the attack on the field. He shot down the first aircraft before his wheels were up. The German fighters were concentrating their fire on the junk airplanes, and even though they strafed them, they wouldn’t burn. We had drained the fuel to keep warm. For the first time, I really got to watch an air battle. In a dogfight, you were concerned with what was behind you and in front of you, so you didn’t have time to watch the entire dogfight around you. The triple As started firing, which were very noisy, and I saw a German fighter get shot down by one of our P-51s. He did a ‘split S’ at 50 feet and went right into the ground near the runway. Everyone was cheering and someone would yell out, ‘look over there, their goes another one down’. Again, another German fighter got hit, and he did a ‘split S’ at 50 feet and went right in. J C and his squadron shot down 23 Germans that morning without a loss, and almost all the planes that went down were near the field. One 366th P-47 was damaged, and my P-51D, “Little One III”, was also damaged and burned. I t was the only aircraft in the 352nd FG that was destroyed on the ground by enemy aircraft.”

In memory of Donald S.Bryan (17 min 38 sec)


LittleOne III (2 min 54 sec)
Oct 16, 2014, 11:23 PM
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Airfield+FMS 1450mm P-51D


Here is my new creation - mix of Airfield and FMS 1450mmP-51D Mustang
Airframe and right retract from Airfield
Spinner,prop,motor,ESC,servos and left retract,landing gear struts, geardoor sequencer from FMS
Paint scheme 352nd FG 487 FS "Petie 2nd" Lt.Col J.C.Meyer C.O.
Paint used - Tamiya XF-16(flat aluminum)
Tamiya XF-8(flat blue) +XF- 2(flat white)
Decals - Callie Graphics
Finish - Water based polyurethane(airbrushed)
Batt. -Pulse 14.8V 4S 3700mAh 45C or Admiral 14.8V 4S 3600mAh 40C.

This airplane equipped with MrRSSound system and homemade gun lights.
Oct 17, 2014, 04:00 AM
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I'll add a couple of pix of my blue nose P51 shes pretty old now but still flying







Major George Preddy 6 kills in one mission


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