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Mar 12, 2018, 01:55 AM
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Side View


If you look at the side view you can see that the elevons could almost be a form of vector thrust as there are control surfaces top and bottom. On the scale, not the model they had outboard rudders, how they were used have to watch some view closely. But I have an idea since I have a Roo and I have mixed twin rudders to the elevator to play with flight control at low speeds.
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Mar 12, 2018, 02:43 AM
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Skyray and LB flight


M2-F2 Lifting Body Test Flight (0 min 44 sec)
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Mar 12, 2018, 02:59 AM
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Suggest another thread so not to confuse this one?

Yes the flight controls will be a challenge. Attached is how the flight controls operate on the M2-F2.

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Mar 12, 2018, 11:07 AM
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The M2 had 2 different control systems planned. It had control mixer somewhat like a swash plate so they could change how the system worked There was some controversy about the best application..Rudders had a large roll component. And the center elevons had a adverse yaw problem which is what caused the crash of the F2..the F3 had the central rudder to cancel the yaw problem...Sorry for the off track Jeff. I guess I will start a thread for my M2 F1 antics
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Mar 12, 2018, 11:14 AM
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While my glass is curing I went ahead and started laying out the X-24. I have two shades of gray at 100% so it is to scale 90-120mm. Also location for batteries. I would add the rudders which could act as air brake. Well before getting to far ahead I’ll just stick with converting plan to my own size and layout.
I would keep the intake straight forward. Just add a splitter in the center to keep the profile look
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Mar 12, 2018, 01:54 PM
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Lancer


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Hey Jeff..FYI that is the Sky lancer F5. That came after the Ray..Its the Sky Rays sleeker little brother
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Mar 12, 2018, 02:01 PM
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Still, strange design, wonder what they were hoping for ?
Mar 12, 2018, 03:22 PM
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A aircraft that can land on a runway after reentry from space that was able to fit in a rocket to launch into space...Which the Dreamcatcher will do in the near future
I have started a thread for Lifting Body info to save Jeffs thread
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...F#post39323338
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Mar 12, 2018, 05:42 PM
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Lb


Thanks Scott for opening a new thread as I was getting ready to start making templates for the Scaled X-24. I think I can cheat the dihedral on the rudders and create an easier flying spacecraft. Noted on the splitter, I didn't want the look of a big fish gasping for air. Although the B version takes care of that, I'm not into the angular look.
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Mar 12, 2018, 05:45 PM
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Yea not a fan of the B model..
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Mar 12, 2018, 06:21 PM
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yeah was going to say that the ray in the vid was a F_5D I watch every vid on you tube last night of the LB's
now back to the Sky Ray ...see you over on the LB thread .
Mar 12, 2018, 10:53 PM
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The M2 had 2 different control systems planned. It had control mixer somewhat like a swash plate so they could change how the system worked There was some controversy about the best application..Rudders had a large roll component. And the center elevons had a adverse yaw problem which is what caused the crash of the F2..the F3 had the central rudder to cancel the yaw problem...Sorry for the off track Jeff. I guess I will start a thread for my M2 F1 antics
That and the fact that the chase helicopter was not in the right place ,causing a last second maneuver that made the gear down selection about 2 seconds late ,and one leg was not locked and it balled up at 200 mph . that is straight from the pilot. and it also required a SAS system required a reset right after launch it did some 90* rolls left and right before he got it under control . like I said the vid is scary . it looks like hes going straight down and rolling hard over 90* several times those guys were some ballsy pilots
Mar 12, 2018, 11:46 PM
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Before I start puzzling plans and templates


I thought Iíd get my vertical glassed. Iíve place a rod in to the base of the rudder, Iíll braze on a brass arm to actuate via servo under the dorsal section. Also be a good time to check layout for wires to wing and some airlines.
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Mar 13, 2018, 11:06 AM
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Nice ..looks like your molding some small parts..
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Mar 13, 2018, 11:25 AM
Dont forget the velcro straps
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man those test pilots had big balls back then hahaha


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