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Mar 15, 2014, 08:25 AM
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BNF does not include a transmitter. So I expected the setup to not require anything except the normal check of control movement and setting the travel and expo according to the manual.
Getting tougher to understand. "Normal check of control movement" always been number one - which is what you did and found you had to reverse one channel. It's the first thing you check any time you bind tx and rx and on every preflight check. Is this the first time you ever found a control direction that needed to be reversed?
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Mar 15, 2014, 10:13 AM
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I'm not sure what problems you guys are having. When I bound my TX, a Spektrum DX9 to my Artizan, I had to reverse the aileron channel. After that, and doing a test of the AS3X as per the manual, everything works fine. I didn't have to go into the receiver to "reverse" anything. I have about 10 flights on mine now with no issues, AS3X works as it should. I have done some advanced aerobatics with my Artizan and the plane performs fantastically. I think some of you are over thinking this, or your TX is to blame.
Mar 15, 2014, 11:59 AM
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Agree - simibill seems to think something is wrong if he has to reverse a channel in his transmitter. I have tried to explain that this is perfectly normal to no avail.
Mar 15, 2014, 12:17 PM
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Agree - simibill seems to think something is wrong if he has to reverse a channel in his transmitter. I have tried to explain that this is perfectly normal to no avail.
Well Mr obvious, The need to reverse a channel is perfectly normal in an installation not involving a AS3X system. In my case, I was concerned that the need to reverse my aileron channel would result in the Gain settings in the AR635 Rx also needed to be reversed. chucksolo69 said he did not need to change the gain settings on his Rx even though he did reverse his aileron channel. Trying to observe the movement of the ailerons when rocking the model to check proper deflection is difficult.
Mar 15, 2014, 02:14 PM
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Well Mr obvious, The need to reverse a channel is perfectly normal in an installation not involving a AS3X system. In my case, I was concerned that the need to reverse my aileron channel would result in the Gain settings in the AR635 Rx also needed to be reversed. chucksolo69 said he did not need to change the gain settings on his Rx even though he did reverse his aileron channel. Trying to observe the movement of the ailerons when rocking the model to check proper deflection is difficult.
Again, not really. All you need to do is make sure that when the appropriate wing is pitched down, so is that particular aileron. Very easy, a no brainer.
Mar 15, 2014, 04:15 PM
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Agree - simibill seems to think something is wrong if he has to reverse a channel in his transmitter. I have tried to explain that this is perfectly normal to no avail.
That's why I asked him if he was new to RC and a new flyer. That's something a newbie would ask. But he replied no, he is not a newbie. So I agree with you
Mar 15, 2014, 05:19 PM
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Maybe I just tried to explain the wrong thing. The best approach might have been to explain that changing the travel direction in your transmitter has no effect on the as3x system. The only way to change any programming in the receiver is to go into program mode
Mar 16, 2014, 01:08 AM
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Maybe I just tried to explain the wrong thing. The best approach might have been to explain that changing the travel direction in your transmitter has no effect on the as3x system. The only way to change any programming in the receiver is to go into program mode
I think he is a new flyer. If you been flying a little, you know that once you bind the TX and RX, you need to check all flying surface and do a flight check. His question is what newbie would ask
Mar 17, 2014, 09:23 PM
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A couple of years ago I bound my brand new PZ SE5a to my Dx6i and took off on my maiden flight, which was also my very first aileron flight, with the ailerons reversed!!!

I can't believe I landed it safely! Fortunately I picked a calm day and a very large field. I walked we'll over 100 feet to where I managed to set her down. So yes, it came out of the box that way for me.

Lesson learned!
Mar 24, 2014, 10:46 AM
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I had to reverse the aileron servo on my BNF T-28. DIdn't seem like a big deal to me at the time...
Mar 24, 2014, 03:53 PM
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I had to reverse the aileron servo on my BNF T-28. DIdn't seem like a big deal to me at the time...
I think the big question was that perhaps when you reverse the ailerons on a plane equipped with AS3X stabilization, do you have to go in and tell the AS3X receiver you have done so. The answer is no. A BNF T-28 wouldn't be questioned since it uses a standard RX without AS3X. Just a tiny bit of confusion is all.
Apr 20, 2015, 03:00 PM
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Artizan + Spektrum 635


Not sure if this thread is still alive, but:

Just bought an Artizan with 635 rx (using DX6 tx). Ailerons were reversed, so I reversed it in the tx. i have not done a any programming of the rx, just the stock settings for the Artizan. Every looked good, control surfaces moving in the right direction for stabilization (though not moving much, especially the elevator). I made some adjustment of the mechanical linkage to get a neutral elevator, but otherwise no issues. Flew it, and it seems to really want to go up. That is, if you give it a bit of up elevator, it wants to go up even more. I had to fight it to get it level and bring it back. CG was not an issue (checked). I'm not sure what the gear was set to on the tx (I didn't know about the 2 rx modes yet). I REALLY don't want to try to reprogram it, and not sure what i would do differently anyways. Any suggestions anyone?

Another question: are the stock settings of the two "banks" in the 635 rx identical, or do they have different rates. I see conflicting info on that. i would like to program one bank with 100% rate and standard "sport" settings for the Artizan, and one bank with NO stabilization.
Apr 21, 2015, 10:59 PM
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In answer to your first question of it climbing the way it does, my visionaire as exactly the same, same receiver, Horizon told me to turn down the gains as they are too high on the elevator...well I still have not done so, but I have discovered that balancing the prop made all the difference in the world to it not doing this, at least as drastically. Also flying it slower prevents it. As you can read from above replies there are some that say its easy to adjust all this stuff. I reread the manual thinking I am going to turn down the gain ,watch the flashing lights and just go back and fly it...to unsure of how to adjust the gains...the manual sucks explaining it.
I think the gains are different in each from the reactions of my plane no proof though
Apr 22, 2015, 12:00 PM
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That is interesting. I will look into balancing the prop (never done that before). I had thought to try to program one of the two "banks" in the 635 to zero the gains, leaving the other bank at factory settings. That is one confusing thing: the manual says they are identical, but somewhere else it says there are different rates programmed for them. I don't see any evidence on mine, switching gear ch with surfaces deflected shows no difference.

I just fixed all the Artisan's trims mechanically, so tx sub trims all exactly zero'd out. Will try again


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