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Renfield I think you have a valid point. But! It is a little unfair to compare the Icon considering it has had it's share of issues. Probably the reason it is being cleared out. I admit that I am not willing to pay $42 to ship this plane. I think they will probably get these to the regional warehouse's. I would think they shipping here in the conus would be less than $20. Just have to wait and see.
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That PZ Icon was a great deal and I ordered one at that price as well. You are right the ESCs and servo's in the HK BNF stuff tend to be marginal at best. So "great deal" for 22 dollars more will need to be reviewed when mine comes in.
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There's really no point in arguing about shipping from the far east. And it's not only HK either, R2Hobbies also does that.
My take is I take the model price, add shipping, and the sum is the price of the model. Whether it's $100 plane plus $40 shipping or $125 plane plus $15 shipping doesn't really matter. Regarding the Icon it's still 130 Eur plus 10 Eur shipping here, even being on sale. So the Skipper is cheaper. Plus other than both being float planes (flying boats?) I think the two don't have that much in common. Just my $0.02. Oh, and HK? -- hurry up with the shipping already! |
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Having owned multiple PZ and HK Icons, I will say that the PZ issues pale by comparison. By the time my HK Icon was useable, it was outfitted with completely new servos and ESC. And the wooden support structure was never waterproofed, so it warped and moulded inside the foam. All of which is to say nothing of how poorly it performed in the water. I might be curious enough to get bitten by HK again on a seaplane. But not for $100+. They've already fooled me twice. Shame on me. Cheers, George |
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I really am curious about this Skippper. There is a veteran pilot at our field that has a couple of the Polaris models(one powered by a 70mm edf) and they really fly nice. I almost purchased the new version of the Polaris that is molded EPO. I just don't want to have a ton of money(and time building) a plane that may not be able to go to the field very often. So I figure if the Skipper works out and I can have it in my hands for $120 give or take I will bite. |
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HK is bound to beat the prices of the small guys as they buy in massive massive quantities. They are definitely made in the same factory, the Joysways have been harder and harder to come by as stocks ran out, they couldn't restock them as the factory was busy fulfilling HK's contract. I did come across this Joysway on Ebay US and there is the odd one floating about the UK but most stockists have been out of stock for ages. To complicate it even more I'd much rather have a Modelaero Polaris Ultra but man does that come out expensive shipped from the US with tax and handling fees then you've still got all the gear to put in it. |
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.Some of you may say..So what ......its only $70..Well If you are buying a $300 plane $70 is not much. I will NOT buy a plane when the cost of shipping is more than 1/4 the value of the plane.If they had made it available in the AU Warehouse shipping would have been no more than $15 |
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I'd probably be stuck with something like NFD Hobbies Icon if I lived in Asia. Agreed the two have little in common in terms of design. The Polaris/northstar/joysway/skipper thing is a form-follows-function setup, reminiscent of a Jeep. Zero style and zero scale reference. While the Icon looks like something Apple would sell and in fact represents one of the coolest real airplanes in general aviation. |
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Renfield.......I like this statement...While the Icon looks like something Apple would sell and in fact represents one of the coolest real airplanes in general aviation.
I wonder being so "cool" why or if anyone has thought about building a full size one..I have seen something similar that skips over the water but never actually flying. |
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