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Old Aug 20, 2013, 06:05 PM
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Mid Wing RC plane After High Wing


Ok would like some different people tell me about mid wing rc planes. Well this be better than a low wing after a high wing. Like 3 different steps of rc to master.
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Old Aug 20, 2013, 06:22 PM
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I have both types, but it really depends on the wing size and shape. Narrow wings on both mid and low can be notorious for tip stalls especially the more they taper, and therefore require more speed to keep lift and avoid the stall. Wide wings with wide tips help with more lift and therefore doesn't require as much speed.
Fly a high wing inverted and it can be a pig, wanting to lift or lower the nose and will require careful trimming to try and find a happy medium. Fly a low wing inverted, and the same happens. Fly a mid wing inverted (like most 3D types) and it will be a lot more happier and can be trimmed to fly just as good either way up.

Personally so long as you have the basics of straight and level flight on a high wing, either plane will be ok, but will take a little to get used to. What planes are you looking at?
My Mustang is a lot easier to fly than my similar sized Spitfire, but the Mustang has a narrower wing chord at the root to mid point than the Spitfire, but has squarer wing tips. The Spit has a wide root but narrows severely all the way to point at the tip, therefore tip stalls at a higher speed than the 'Stang.
Old Aug 20, 2013, 07:37 PM
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I can just fly my spitfire on a good day any wind and control for me is out of the Question. i had good luck with my turns on a 4 channel but if the wind get the plane going I'm loss and in for a crash. I was thinking I made to big a jump.
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Old Aug 20, 2013, 07:45 PM
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the little spit is easy to fly - you just have to practice more. it handles wind real well too. again, practice.
Old Aug 20, 2013, 10:48 PM
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If you can fly a 4 channel high wing, like say the Apprentice well- inverted or upright, coordinated turns using rudder, cross wind landings...

You might think about the Handy Man or larger Handy King on appropriately low rates. Relatively cheap and tough, easy to repair. Knife edge well, and fun in high-ish winds.
Old Aug 20, 2013, 11:22 PM
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I like midwing over all, because they usually do aerobatics easier, so it makes my parkflying just more fun.
I usually get a EPP Hacker Zoom or SuperZoom and set it up as a parkflyer, built light.
Then they will hand launch straight up, land slow enough to catch and can be flown in a small area, even in the street in front of the house.
Old Aug 21, 2013, 03:09 AM
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I'd recommend going with a Stik. Been around for about 40 years, shoulder wing, stable, quick, basic aerobatics, lands nice, overall a great second plane and something you can always have fun flying years from now.
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Old Aug 21, 2013, 06:21 AM
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Thanks I wrote all this down well look at all these planes and practice the spitfire when the parts come in to get her back to gather.
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Old Aug 21, 2013, 08:46 AM
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If that's the mini Spitfire your flying, that's part of the problem Papa. To twitchy in the wind. Get a bigger one like Butch mentioned. Those planes are made from EPP or EPO foam and are vey rugged having had the Super Zoom for many yrs. Other thing like CMDL says, practice, practice practice. Won't take long to catch on.

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Old Aug 21, 2013, 11:30 AM
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wing change


changing from top wing to midwing or bottom wing have different abilitiies
Think of this while thinking of changing wing location

TOP WING: This is designed to give lift and slow flyer
MID-WING: designed for some lift and some agility(manouvers)
BOTTOM-WING: major agility (manouvers, stunts,3d,sport)
BI-WING(bi-plane): top wing for lift and bottom wing agility

So with the above it is some thing to think about

Personaly i love the bi-wing. you have the best of both worlds. lift and the agility
Old Aug 22, 2013, 01:16 PM
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I can just fly my spitfire on a good day any wind and control for me is out of the Question. ...
Try an Orange 3-axis stabilizer, that's what they're for...
Old Aug 22, 2013, 01:42 PM
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changing from top wing to midwing or bottom wing have different abilitiies
Think of this while thinking of changing wing location

TOP WING: This is designed to give lift and slow flyer
MID-WING: designed for some lift and some agility(manouvers)
BOTTOM-WING: major agility (manouvers, stunts,3d,sport)
BI-WING(bi-plane): top wing for lift and bottom wing agility

So with the above it is some thing to think about

Personaly i love the bi-wing. you have the best of both worlds. lift and the agility
Where in the world did you get this information?
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 02:10 PM
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Where in the world did you get this information?
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changing from top wing to midwing or bottom wing have different abilitiies
Think of this while thinking of changing wing location

TOP WING: This is designed to give lift and slow flyer
MID-WING: designed for some lift and some agility(manouvers)
BOTTOM-WING: major agility (manouvers, stunts,3d,sport)
BI-WING(bi-plane): top wing for lift and bottom wing agility

So with the above it is some thing to think about

Personaly i love the bi-wing. you have the best of both worlds. lift and the agility
I would love to know where you got this information, since most of it is misleading or straight out wrong.

Top wing position does not give more lift. Lift is a function of wing design and angle of incidence. For example, an undercamber wing at the mid-wing position will provide a lot more lift than a similarly sized symmetrical wing at the high position.

The mid-wing position provides the greatest amount of "agility", not the bottom wing position.

Take a broomstick and hold it with just your thumb and pointer finger. First hold it at one end so that the stick hangs down. Feel how stable it is. Now try to spin it; not very easy. This is comparable to the high wing position. Now hold the stick at the end so that it goes straight up from your hand. Now try to spin it. The stick was very unstable and awkward to spin, but easier to spin then when it was hanging down. This is your bottom wing position. Now hold it at the center, then try to spin it. Not as stable as when it was hanging down, but a lot more stable then when it was sticking up. Spinning is very easy. This is the mid-wing position.

The Bi-plane does not give a great combination of lift and agility. What it gives is a significantly reduced wing loading, but increased drag.

For a beginner, the stability of a high wing is usually the best choice. For maneuverability for 3D flying, the mid-wing is best. For cool looking slow flying, a bi-wing can't be beat.


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