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Jun 25, 2013, 05:03 AM
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Tough times


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Acting with Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, "forward.us" successfully amended the current immigration bill to almost triple the number of foreign high-tech workers allowed into the U.S. from 65,000 to 180,000. The Hatch proposal also eliminated the requirement employers prove their new green card-holder did not displace an American worker.
If you've been in the real world & not watching the stock market, you know it's very hard to make money. There hasn't been any hiring, as businesses wait for the results of the latest immigration bill. Salaries are a lot less & long term positions with benefits went away years ago for anyone but the extremely over qualified. Case in point: a PhD is required to write a bootloader at Broadcom.

it was the tech sector, which wants the right to hire the best and brightest even if they're not American, that helped jump-start the immigration debate months ago.
Just like women in their 30's, if they can't have the best, they won't take anyone. It's easier to get into Harvard than Google. So now a lot of smart people who could probably do the job, but maybe for 1% more than the absolute lowest cost & maybe 1% slower than the absolute very fastest watch from the sidelines as the labor market holds out for the very best in Mumbai & Taiwan.


It's hard to find any fault in the system. Technology jobs were always a cut above average in terms of income & the reason was because it was damn hard to get in. Engineering programs would only take the very best students. It always took a huge amount of education & work that didn't involve daydreaming & blog commenting.


The tradition of a very competitive, prestigious, exclusive, relatively high paying career continues in the form of new laws that shut US out, in favor of waiting for the very best in Asia. Congress argues that they're better off holding out for Asia to produce workers than accepting just a fraction of a percent compromise in hiring from US.


1 big difference between now & 15 years ago is they're emphasizing graduate education in engineering more than ever before. Previously, they sought experience more than formal education. At most, an upper manager would have an MS.


Now, look at people your age who are at Google & every single one earned a PhD or an MS during the years you were dicking around with telescope mounts. The rest of the world started offering candidates with advanced formal education, so that became the standard.
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Jun 25, 2013, 02:19 PM
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I have worked for more than 25 years in the high tech industry.....long retired.

The high tech. industry wants educated people but does little to make our politicians keep our schools competitive. (I cut short this speech)

we need to take care of this countries people Instead of shopping overseas.

Industry has been shopping elsewhere to keep the profits up, this is good for the short term but will bite them in the --- in time.

It's been all about quick profit, china is going to eat our lunches they look at the long term. our snatch and grab mentality can't last.
Jun 25, 2013, 05:29 PM
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Middle Class is Getting Fired: Altucher



The current issue is competitiveness. The government will not assail you if you can't produce for the same cost as someone from Mumbai because the government is out of cash & it needs to defend itself. It needs the most competitive population in the world to survive.


Eventually, who can raise the most taxes & who can build the better weapons is who your government needs here, even if it means you stepping aside for someone from China. There's a modern trend of less competitive Americans moving to Asia while more competitive foreigners move to US.


Your government has decided that nationality is like a business. You're only here as long as you provide value to the business. If you can't produce value for the least cost, you're done. Despite every effort to equalize wealth, spread the patriotism & feed the bald eagles, the law of the animal kingdom needs to prevail or the country dies.
Jun 27, 2013, 01:57 PM
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Middle Class is Getting Fired: Altucher



The current issue is competitiveness. The government will not assail you if you can't produce for the same cost as someone from Mumbai because the government is out of cash & it needs to defend itself. It needs the most competitive population in the world to survive.


Eventually, who can raise the most taxes & who can build the better weapons is who your government needs here, even if it means you stepping aside for someone from China. There's a modern trend of less competitive Americans moving to Asia while more competitive foreigners move to US.


Your government has decided that nationality is like a business. You're only here as long as you provide value to the business. If you can't produce value for the least cost, you're done. Despite every effort to equalize wealth, spread the patriotism & feed the bald eagles, the law of the animal kingdom needs to prevail or the country dies.
Don't ever let politics consume you like this.

We've been on borrowed time as far back as the very first hand signal was made from one human to another.

The planet has it's fate as do we. In my opinion, nothing can change that. The universe is all negative and positive and nothing can change that either, It's a perfect inexplicable balance.

Stay in the positive here and you'll enjoy it eternally.

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