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MALCOM, I do not think u you understand. Did you ever watch Mike Wargo or Dan, or Alex fly?
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Last edited by Kasperwing; Apr 22, 2021 at 04:20 PM.
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well said Nyathi.
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I have learned to mostly not pay attention to what sponsored pilots can do with a give plane. A good sponsored pilot can 3D a brick. I am by no means at the sponsored pilot level but even I was able to do reasonable 3D with a 3DHS Bigfoot - this is a cub like aerobatic aircraft, but I managed to do torque rolls, rolling harriers, knife edge spins etc. with it. To a bystander the Bigfoot might have looked reasonably capable, but believe me, it was not much fun to fly 3D with. A sponsored pilot can make anything look good. So I am more interested in feedback from someone at roughly my skill level. Kasperwing, we are all entitled to our opinions about a given plane. If the Addiction suits you, great. I was very disappointed in it and I’ve seen various postings in PA threads knocking EF planes, so I posted my feedback. Hopefully the person who buys my Addiction XL enjoys it as much as you do. |
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Malcom, If someone were to go to the EF thread and talk against them like you have here.... it would not be received well. In conclusion, do unto others the way you want them to do unto you.
I do not understand why you came here and said the things you have. No product made by man is perfect. No model is perfect, no motorcycle is perfect etc. I have about $1700 ~ $1900 in PA planes ( bought new and used) and I have about the same in EF. Each make flies according to its design parameters. Since I design and build models, ones that go fast and go slow, free-flight etc... I found build the PA ADXL engaging and rewarding. Building the EF 60 size ( Laser, Extra, Slick) only requires the most basic of skill and knowledge. I have a question for you.... could you build a full house competition sailplane from sticks? Unless you can do that, then I suggest you have a lot to learn about this hobby. I would also suggest that unless you have something nice to say, it would be better to remain silent. To do other wise will ruffle the flight feathers of your fellow pilots. We are all proud of the planes we build and fly. If one comes here to DIS a certain model... well it looks bad. |
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That is not a great comparison Kasper the EF "click" get their knickers all up in knots if someone does not like the colour of an EF plane, let alone someone dares try offering constructive criticism. Heavens forbid if anything negative is said about an EF product.... the attack dogs come out, and boy are they vicious.
Why are you concerned about others not liking one of your beloved planes, who cares life goes on. |
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Do I want a plane that is easy to assemble? Darn right I do. The engineering and quality of the Addiction is poor. It is as if the advances that other companies have made in the last ten years have been ignored. Aileron surfaces that are barely beveled and a rudder with no bevelling. A canopy held on with magnets that don’t do the job - what about using a latch, screws or a quick release. A tail wheel that is a case study in how not to design a tail wheel. Pull-pull servo under the motor where adjustments require removing a lot of equipment. And who doesn’t have some wood around the pull-pull exits to reinforce them and make them possible to locate? Improper aileron servo wire cutouts on the fuselage - instead of fixing this in the next production run they document the error in the manual (leave some covering so a gap doesn’t show). A large gap at the wing root on my plane due to warped wood. A fragile carbon spinner with a prop cutout that isn’t close to the correct size. Side force generators, or whatever they call them, that are a huge pain to install (and they are permanent, every other company has a design that lets you easily try the plane with and without the SFGs). So all these issues, if I raise them, I’m a troll? Can I fix some (not all) of these issues? Yes. Should I have to, on a plane that costs more than an equivalent plane from EF, AJ, Skywing - no. I’ve said my piece, I’ve given my feedback, I’m done with PA so I’ll happily ignore all PA related threads. |
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The planes I buy/ fly and enjoy have nothing to do with some extra work and skill required to extract the most and best flying experience. Most all planes can get into the air. Heck even a cement block, with enough thrust in the right direction will become airborne. We have two extremes here. A glider that can stay aloft, with extreme grace and dignity, maybe on rising air alone, ...... and then the cement block that will crash back down with a great thud and splash.
What goes up must come down as it were ( in general terms). IMHO, the PA line of models approach the glider. All other models with high wing loading approach the rock. I prefer to launch rocks from a catapult, or throw them with my once powerful arm etc. I prefer to explore the nuances of flight with aircraft that allow one to feel connected. That react to inputs in an meaningful way. Fly aircraft with high wing loading do not allow for such an experience. Yes, they are fun, yes I am glad I have a few. For me they are not as rewarding as a plane with light wing loading. It is so cool to fly across the flight line at walking speed. It is as if one is defying gravity. When I attach a rocket to a brick, I know full well that sort of enjoyment will not happen. To each is own. There are some that enjoy rocketry. There are some that only fly gliders. Isn't it great that we have wonderful opportunity to fly what is most meaning fun to us! |
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Guys i don't know whats the surprise, the addiction series were never meant to be high energy planes, so if you bought one for high energy its the wrong plane... no wonder you are dissapointed. they are made for slow and low 3D, yes the V2 version are a bit faster and capable because of the new airfoil, but their main purpose is slow 3D. If you want a high energy plane from PA the best ones are K52, AMR 60, XR61T, 260, etc
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Waaaal, I got up early to finish the setup for my refurbished Addy XL. Finished all the structural repairs and film patch-ups. Then wired it up and plugged it all in and bound it and... the motor and throttle works, the servos don't. Except for an aileron that slowly drifts to one end and stops there.
Maybe that's what I get for all second-hand everything! Thankfully I a decent stock of extra almost-everythings, too (seeing as I've got two Addy XL refurbishments on the go), so I'll be narrowing down the issue. Wish me luck! Sadly, a maiden seems unlikely for this weekend. |
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I fly older EF and 3DHS airframes, but am highly interested in this airframe that some of the guys have at our local field. Every airframe has its strengths and weaknesses. It is because of its strengths and different flying characteristics is why I want one. I will eventually own one of these. |
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I've wondered if anyone has ever successfully done a custom bec setup for this plane? if I have an esc with a bad bec (only), I could reuse it in future with a custom bec and cut the red power wire from that esc so it becomes a throttle-out-only wire. Anyone with tips on this train of thought? Is it worth even considering? I similarly considered a servos-only battery, but I really dislike that particular thought due to its added weight. |
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