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Jan 21, 2004, 07:03 PM
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Su-27 twin EDF and Mig-29 Twin EDF kit release imminent if enough interest?

Hi all, we at Green Air Designs are about to release our Su-27 and Mig 29 for twin Vasa55 EDF, If anyone is interested please contact us as we need some feed back before going into full production.

Both aircraft are designed for sp300 power but prefer to use Brushless 300 i.e. Modelmotors 12/15/12

Both for taileron control using mini servos and micro gear.

both 26" span!

so please if anyone is interested, drop us a line and more importantly visit our site at.

we already have F-15 and F-18 in production, we plan to release a su-27 pusher and Mig 25 foxbat pusher also in mid to late feb.

here are a couple of pics of our released kits just to give you a taste!, both f-15 and F-18 are 80 to 100mph planes and we hope the mig and su will be just as quick and fun.

Also we are lookign for a US dealer fo our kits..if any one is interested im sure we can sort out a mutualy beneficial deal.

Best regards,

Micheal J Black

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Jan 21, 2004, 09:58 PM
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You guys need to upgrade your service. Got this message when I went to your site.

The website you have requested has exceeded its daily bandwidth quota of 56MB and has been temporarily de-activated.
Jan 22, 2004, 04:44 AM
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sorry guys, this is the second time this has happened, sodding host!..will get it sorted today, please pop back again and it shoudl be sorted.
Jan 22, 2004, 04:46 AM
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As it turns out , its only a daily thing, but i have upgraded now and will be on full term in about 15 mins!!!!

sorry again about that, damn thing, PLEASE CHECK BACK, its our life line!

thanks for the time to tell me,

Best regards,

Micheal j Black
Jan 22, 2004, 10:08 AM
Do you have any pictures of the SU-27 or the Mig-29 ? While your at it, please put up some prices in american Dollars, and let us know what the shipping costs to the USA are.
Jan 22, 2004, 01:01 PM
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your depron jets look nice but i have a hard time beleiving that they go 120mph.

"We run mega 16/15/2:3 on 6-10 scr1250`s 2/3sc`s and get 5 min's at 120mph"
Jan 22, 2004, 05:02 PM
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Hard to believe......

yup, can understand your lack of belief, i was the same, just flew the planes and wondered if we could work out a rough speed..i.e..within say 5mph. So we. measured the patch we fly over( the concrete bit), got 2 people to stand either end and timed the fly over on the level, knowing the time and the distance covered with a given constant worked out to between 110 and 120mph,actualy it was 118.somthing, the only variable was flying time, if your full on for flight you do not get 5 mins but nearer 4 but with a bit of throttling we get about 5 mins so trust me i aint lying, surpised us at green air too.

All this was corroberated when a close friend with a speed camera came along to check our numbers (local bobby) sorry local police and found we were within 5% accuracy he read 114.2 on first run and after 2 mins 98.7 on second run so, we are not far off.

Thank you for bringing this to the fore and "keeping it real" because alot of people just go "yeah ok" and wont question the facts, brilliant, i hope this has answered any querries about the legitimacy of the speed.

If you wish to try one of our planes please contact me personaly and i will give you a very reduced price to prove the point.

Best regards.

Micheal J Black

happy flying!
Jan 23, 2004, 12:18 AM
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pictures would definitely be good!
Jan 23, 2004, 12:39 AM
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I will buy Su-27 if it is good.
I have two vasa55 fans and two Himaxx2025-4200 brushless motors.

I have plans to make EPP SU-27 by myself, but I can't do it util now. So if your Su-27 is good enough, I will buy them.

Lee Hoin
Jan 23, 2004, 12:48 AM
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As I know, vasa55+Himaxx2025-4200+3SLipo can make above 350g thrust, so two will be 700-800g thrust.

1-1.2kg is OK.
26" span is too small(probably 600-700g), 28-30" span will be 1-1.2kg.

Lee hoin.
Last edited by waiting75; Jan 23, 2004 at 01:03 AM.
Jan 23, 2004, 04:27 AM
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RE. SIze and Photos

Hi all, in reference to the size of them , i decided on 26" as i have a 30" and it it quite large, wanted somthing a little small, but if you guys want it a bit bigger just say, as this is the point to this thread, what you think, what you flyers want and seeif we can make it to you requirements.

inRef to pics, sorry but No.2 daugter has dropped cammera and wont be back until next week at the earliest ( we were stupid enough to lend it on school trip) , but i have posted MK1 proto pics, not quite the same but, gives a rough idea, will post pics as soon as humanly possible

Best regards,

micheal J black
Jan 23, 2004, 04:05 PM
Hey are you gonna sell those canopies? I could use a few of the F-18 ones since I have some that size. I would like to see the Flanerk and Fulkrum pics as an EDF too. I also think 26" is just to small of a WS to launch a twin Micro EDF. I did a twin SU-27 and it was closer to 28.5" but could perhaps be scaled down a bit for Wemo Microfans since it was built around Vasa 55 fans with the lip.
Jan 23, 2004, 09:31 PM
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Above picture looks great!
I want to get it... maybe my friends too.

Another Su-27 with twin Minifan was too big to me.
Yours is proper to me.
Furthermore, Yours could setup with cheap GWS EDF-55+himaxx2015 also maybe...

Lee Hoin.
Last edited by waiting75; Jan 23, 2004 at 09:38 PM.
Jan 24, 2004, 01:40 AM
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Twin Fans would be cool, but a pusher in that little thing would just be wicked!

Jan 24, 2004, 01:47 AM
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That picture says plenty. Very nice, and just about the right size. I too would like to see the Mig-29 and SU-27 pics. Now about those prices (in US dollars please).

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