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HobbyKing Pocket Quad Ultra-Micro DSM2 MultiWii Quadcopter


have you seen this?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...pter_PNF_.html





THE COMMUNITY HAS COME UP WITH SOME FANTASTIC STUFF LINKED TO BELOW
THANKS EVERYONE

Jim indexed it how cool is that? cheers Jim

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Originally Posted by jesolins
@Neobot
Hi Martin,
Here are a few helpful posts that you might consider placing in the first page:

Firmware for PUMQ:
CESCO PUMQ builds
GKE MW and UAVX Lite builds

Multiwii SVN

--Jesolins HK Pocket Ultra Micro Quad easy motor mounting 101

--Jesolins HK Pocket Ultra Micro Quad motor protection landing gear and Rx mounting 101

--Jesolins HK Pocket Ultra Micro Quad(PUMQ) build 101

--Balancing the Pocket Ultra Micro Quads's 45mm Gemfan micro props 101

--PUMQ LOSI connector adapter 101

--Micro CG 101


--Single axis Micro PID stand 101

--Ladybird/Hubsan Motors mounting info for PUMQ 101

--720 brushed motor rotations and polarity 101

--Micro motor saver guards

--Gluing micro props on motor shafts 101

--Micro prop removal made easy using wire cutting pliers 101

--Removing and replacing micro props 101

--Mini and micro multicopter motor lubricating 101


--Micro quad OEM and Turnigy Nano-Tech lipo tests 101

--
PUMQ reverse voltage damage possible repair 101

Cheers,
Jim
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bdelapen
Here are a few links that may be useful:

Arduino Download: http://arduino.cc/en/main/software
8KHz Code: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=335
MultiWii 2.2 GUI for Windows: https://code.google.com/p/mw-wingui/downloads/list
MultiWii 2.2 Complete (includes Mac): https://code.google.com/p/multiwii/d...2.zip&can=2&q=
MultiWii Wiki: http://www.multiwiicopter.com/pages/multiwiicopter-wiki

- Birger
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thint1
Hi,
additional links
16 kHz / selectable 2, 4, 8kHz with Acromode https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25060045
binding with no main receiver https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=411
setting up servo throw and midpoints https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=372
settings for high stability and smooth flight https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=413
acro settings https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=404
spare motors (CW and CCW) and props https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=475

cu Thomas
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.E.B
Procédure pour débutant (comme moi).

Merci à toute personne qui apportera des modifications à cette procédure pour que tout le monde puissent utiliser le HobbyKing Pocket Quad Ultra-Micro DSM2 MultiWii Quadcopter.

1- Charger les programme suivant :
ARDUINO : http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Software ( j’ai installé la version Arduino 1.5.2)
MULTIWII GUI : http://code.google.com/p/multiwii/do...2.zip&can=2&q= (j’ai installé la version MultiWii release 2.2)
Le programme de CESCO MultiWii_2_2_pocket 8khz : https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=335

2- Installer les drivers USB pour ARDUINO LEONARDO.
Deziper le Logiciel ARDUINO.
Brancher la carte du MultiWii_2_2_pocket 8khz sans la batterie sans le récepteur satellite et sans les moteurs sur un port USB de votre ordinateur.
Dans le gestionnaire périphériques Windows vous devriez trouvez un appareil dont l’installation des drivers n’est pas correcte : c’est votre MultiWii Quadcopter ou ARDUINO LEONARDO.
Il faut installer les driver manuellement. Vous trouverez ces driver dans le dossier : arduino-1.5.2-windows/ arduino-1.5.2 /drivers.
Si votre installation c’est bien exécutée un périphérique Ports(COM et LPT) ARDUINO LEONARDO doit apparaitre. Noter le numéro de port COM.

3- Installer le logiciel MultiWii_2_2_pocket 8khz de CESCO dans votre MultiWii_2_2_pocket 8khz.
Brancher la carte MultiWii Quadcopter sur un port USB de votre ordinateur.
Ouvrir le logiciel ARDUINO.exe.
Ouvrir le fichier MultiWii_2_2_pocket.ino qui se trouve dans le dossier MultiWii_2_2_pocket de CESCO. (Cela ouvre une deuxième fenêtre ARDUINO avec l’ensemble du programme)
Dans outils, port série sélectionnez le port COM sur le quelle se trouve votre carte MultiWii Quadcopter.
Dans outils, Board sélectionnez ARDUINO LEONARDO.
Puis finalement « téléverser » le programme vers la carte : menu fichiers/ téléverser ou petite flèche bleue dans un rond un haut de la fenêtre ARDUINO.
Attendre quelques instant la fin de la procédure. Puis débranchez le MultiWii Quadcopter du port USB et fermer ARDUINO

4- BIND du satellite DSM2.
Connecter votre satellite sur un récepteur compatible SPEKTRUM DSM2 : OrangeRx R620 ou R610
Puis exécutez la procédure de BIND SPEKTRUM classique : les voyants du récepteur et du satellite doivent être fixe quand tout est OK.

5- Monter l’ensemble des composants de votre MultiWii Quadcopter.
Les moteurs.
Le satellite DSM2.
Les hélices (Attention les moteurs sont fragile bien maintenir le fond quand on insère l’hélice.
La batterie.
Je conseil un peu de colle époxy sur les connecteurs qui sont fragile).

6- Vérifier le paramétrage de votre émetteur DSM2 SPEKTRUM
Pour un fonctionnement correcte et l’armement de votre Quad il faut que le débattement des commandes soit environ de +125% à -125%.
Sur ma radio DX8 en mode 2 :
Mode avion.
Course des servos à -125% +125%.
Servos Aileron et Dérive inversés.

Mon fichier de programmation de DX8 mode 2 : https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=314

• L’armement du MultiWii Quadcopter, ce fait gaz au minimum er dérive à droite : le voyant bleu s’allume et les moteur tourne lentement, le quad est pres à décoller
• Le désarmement ce fait gaz au minimum et dérive à gauche : le voyant bleu s’éteint et les moteur aussi.

7- Branchement du MultiWii Quadcopter sur l’interface MULTIWII GUI.
Verifier que le programme ARDUINO ne fonctionne pas les deux logiciel ne peuvent marcher en meme temps.
Poser à plat votre MultiWii Quadcopter sans la batterie.
Allumer votre émetteur.
Connecter au port USB de votre ordinateur.
Démarrer MultiWiiConf.exe.( j’utilise la version application.windows32, malgré que je sois sous Windows 8 Pro 64 bits, la version de MultiWiiConf.exe 64 bits ne démarre pas sur mon PC……. ???.)
Dans MultiWiiConf sélectionner le PORT COM de MultiWii Quadcopter.
Puis clic sur START.
Normalement si tout est normale le tracer des capteurs accéléromètres et gyroscopes doit démarrer et vous pouvez observer que les courbes varient quand vous bouger le Quad.
Lorsque vous bouger les manette de votre radio vous devez le voir sur l’interface MULTIWII GUI.
Les valeurs de débattement doivent être minimum 1080, neutre 1500, maximum 1920.
Vous pouvez vérifier si les débattement sont suffisant en arment et désarment le Quad : Gaz au minimum dérive à droite puis dérive à gauche pour désarmer. La LED bleue doit être fixe quand le quad est ARM et sur l’interface ARM passe au vert.
Quand vous avez vérifiez tout cela, que votre Quadcopter est bien à plat, cliquer sur CALIB_ACC pour calibrer les accéléromètres de votre Quadcopter.
Puis sur WRITE pour enregistrer.
Débrancher le connecteur USB.
Les valeurs de P.I.D peuvent être changer par un clic sur la case et un déplacement de la souris de gauche à droite. Mais pour débuter les valeur d’origine sont correcte.

8- Premier vol.
Vérifier que les hélices sont sur les bon moteurs, aider vous des photos sur le forum. Attention les moteurs sont fragile bien maintenir le fond quand ont insère l’hélice.
Poser bien à plat votre Quadcopter.
Allumer votre émetteur.( tous les inters off, du dual rate vous empêcherait d’armer).
Brancher la batterie sur Quadcopter, attendre quelques secondes l’initialisation.
Armer : Gaz minimum dérive à droite.
La LED bleue est fixe et les hélices doivent tourner doucement.
Faire quelques essais avec les gaz très bas, pour vérifier que les hélice sont sur les bon moteurs.
Si tous vous semble OK : décollage !!!

Mon anglais étant très médiocre le traduction est faite par GOOGLE.
Peut être quelqu’un Pourra améliorer cette traduction…et la procédure pour débutant bien sur…


Procedure for beginners (like me).

Thank you to anyone who will make changes to this procedure that everyone can use the HobbyKing Quad Pocket Ultra Micro DSM2 MultiWii Quadcopter.

1 - Load the following program:
ARDUINO: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Software (I installed the Arduino version 1.5.2)
MultiWii GUI: http://code.google.com/p/multiwii/do..._2.zip&can=2&q = (I installed the version 2.2 release MultiWii)
The program CESCO MultiWii_2_2_pocket 8khz: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=335

2 - Install the USB drivers for Arduino Leonardo.
Unzip the Arduino software.
Connect map MultiWii_2_2_pocket 8khz without battery without the satellite receiver and without engines on a USB port on your computer.
In the Windows device manager you should find a device whose driver installation is not correct: it is your MultiWii Quadcopter or Arduino Leonardo.
You must install the driver manually. You can find this driver in the folder: arduino-1.5.2-windows / arduino-1.5.2 / drivers.
If your installation is a well executed device Ports (COM & LPT) Arduino Leonardo should appear. Note the COM port number.

3 - Install the software MultiWii_2_2_pocket 8khz of CESCO in your 8khz MultiWii_2_2_pocket.
Connect MultiWii Quadcopter card into a USB port on your computer.
Open ARDUINO.exe software.
Open MultiWii_2_2_pocket.ino file located in the folder MultiWii_2_2_pocket CESCO. (This opens a second window with ARDUINO the whole program)
In tools, select the serial COM port on what is your MultiWii Quadcopter card.
In tools, select Board Arduino Leonardo.
And finally "upload" the program to the map: File menu / upload or small blue arrow in a round top window ARDUINO.
Wait a few moments the end of the procedure. Then disconnect the MultiWii Quadcopter the USB port and close ARDUINO

4 - BIND DSM2 satellite.
Connect your satellite on a Spektrum DSM2 compatible receiver: OrangeRx R620 or R610
Then run the procedure BIND classic Spektrum: LEDs on the receiver and the satellite must be fixed when everything is OK.

5 - Assemble the components of your MultiWii Quadcopter.
Engines.
The DSM2 satellite.
Propellers (Warning engines are fragile commodity hold the bottom when you insert the propeller.
The battery.
I recommend some epoxy glue on the connectors that are fragile).

6 - Check the setting of your transmitter Spektrum DSM2
For proper operation and arming your Quad requires that the aileron deflection is about 125% -125%.
On my DX8 radio mode 2:
Airplane mode.
Servo travel to 125% -125%.
Aileron servos and drift reversed.

My file programming DX8 mode 2: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=314

• Arming the MultiWii Quadcopter, this gas is at least st drift right: the blue light comes on and the engine is running slowly, the quad is near to take off
• Disarmament thus gas and minimum drift left: the blue light turns off and the engine too.

7 - Connecting MultiWii Quadcopter on MultiWii GUI.
Verify that the program does not work ARDUINO both software can not walk at the same time.
Ask your flat MultiWii Quadcopter without the battery.
Turn on your transmitter.
Connect the USB port of your computer.
Start MultiWiiConf.exe. (I use application.windows32 version despite my Windows 8 Pro 64 bit version MultiWiiConf.exe 64 bits does not start on my PC? .......?).
In MultiWiiConf select the COM PORT MultiWii Quadcopter.
Then click on START.
Normally if everything is normal trace the accelerometers and gyroscopes sensors to start and you can see that the curves vary when you move the Quad.
When you move the throttle on your radio you see on the MultiWii GUI.
The values of clearance must be minimum in 1080, neutral in 1500, maximum 1920.
You can check if the clearance is sufficient to arm and disarm the Quad: Gas minimum rightward drift and drift left to disarm. The blue LED should be fixed when the quad is ARM and the ARM interface turns green.
When you check this, your Quadcopter is flat, click CALIB_ACC to calibrate accelerometers your Quadcopter.
Then WRITE to save.
Disconnect the USB connector.
The PID values can be changed by clicking on the box and moving the mouse from left to right. But to get the original value is correct.

8 - First Flight.
Check that the fans are on the right engine, helping you pictures on the forum. Warning engines are fragile commodity hold the bottom when inserts have the propeller.
Ask your flat Quadcopter.
Turn on your transmitter. (Inters all off, the dual rate would prevent you from arming).
Connect the battery Quadcopter, wait a few seconds to initialize.
Arm: minimum gas drift to the right.
The blue LED is fixed and the fans must rotate smoothly.
Do some testing with very low gas to ensure that the propeller is on the right engine.
If all you seem OK: off!

My English is very poor the translation is done by GOOGLE.
Maybe someone ... Will improve this translation and the procedure for beginners ...


J.E.B
Quote:
Originally Posted by gke
I have uploaded a radically cutdown Lite version of MW into the gke folder in the MultiWii SVN repository. The zip file is attached to this post.

There are many many changes and in fact it is close to a rewrite. The PID control code may be of interest to the main MW guys and is adapted from UAVX. Code loop can run down to 1.3mS which is more than enough and is mainly I2C time reading the MPU6050. I have it set to 2mS currently.

Any parameter that is zero when you load the defaults means it is not used by the code.

You must calibrate the accelerometers at least once otherwise the motors will not start. You only need to do this again if you do a major frame bending crash or if the calibration is radically wrong. The gyro stick programming "angle" trim now trims the accelerometer neutrals.

The defines at the top of config.h should work. Comment out or uncomment the things you wish to use.

You can select the original MW control code by uncommenting USE_MW_CONTROL. My control code supports ANGLE_MODE and ACRO. If ACROTRAINER_MODEdefined then you go directly to ACRO if the stick on that axis exceeds the trainer value but only on that axis not all of them as MW does.. Full stick is 500.

This is a work in progress. I would appreciate any positive comments/suggestions the rest I will put on my ignore list .

Greg
Quote:
Originally Posted by jesolins
H C,
You mean the ubiquitous LOSI Micro-T 2-pin lipo connectors:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JST-DS-LOSI-...item2a2ccff36b
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-x-Losi-Mi...item27d304c7d9

CAUTION! Be sure to check that the polarity is correct when you make this adapter. For most of the connectors I have received and built I had to swap the pins in the LOSI connectors. It is easy to do by pressing down on the silver tab that is visible on one side of the connector. Make sure you bend the tab back out a bit before you reinsert it for a secure fit.

Cheers,
Jim
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Features:
• Ultra-micro size
• DSM2 compatible
• Integrated MultiWii flight controller
• Atmega32u4 processor
• MPU-6050 Gyro/Acc chip

Specs:
CPU Speed: 16MHz
Flash Size: 32kB (3.3kB taken by the Bootloader)
Inputs: 5 high-res RX inputs (1 x AUX channel)
PPM Receiver Support: Yes
DSM2 Satellite Support: Yes (included)
Propeller Size: 45mm (included)
Dimensions: 70x70x9mm
Weight: 30g (w/receiver and battery)

Included:
Pocket Quad frame
DSM2 satellite receiver
7mm high speed coreless motor x 4
3.7V 250mAh lipoly battery x 2
45mm propeller x 4
USB charger

Required:
Your own 4CH DSM2 transmitter
May 03, 2013, 08:01 AM
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Drool. Entering my shopping Cart very soon. Nice to see a complete little package at that price. I really like where things are headed with all of these multiwii micro's.
May 03, 2013, 08:14 AM
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me too forget hacking the micro Q-bot this makes that pointless and no fancy solder job needed just plug in usb job done
May 03, 2013, 08:27 AM
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Subscribed. I'll be watching this one very closely.
May 03, 2013, 08:37 AM
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I do see one thing I would change. I would have built in some sort of landing skid on the arms otherwise this looks like the motor wires are the first thing to make contact with the ground.
May 03, 2013, 08:59 AM
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agreed hopin they are 7mm motors so we can use motor "cups" from other models? udi816/minipet
May 03, 2013, 09:19 AM
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I ordered mine this morning.
Will be great to tinker with the settings. Maybe add an auto-flip algorithm to the code. That will be fun to play with.
Being able to use a proper Tx will be a treat.
I played with the multiWii code and programmer a few months ago and it wasn't too hard to get it up and running.
It also doesn't have any cover on it and the electronics is even more exposed that the usual micro quads. I guess we'll adapt some plastic coke bottle bottoms or something for a cover. Might be a good idea to do a conformal coating on the electronics too.
May 03, 2013, 09:37 AM
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no need for a flip button multiwii does acro stunt mode waaaaaaay better than ANY toy quad currently on the market! this will make the mqx and ladybird look like preprogrammed toys only difference being YOU will be abnle to program this to fly any way you like

3 flight modes as standard on multiwii

acro

do ALL stunts yourself!

horizon

do ALL stunts yourself but return to level at center stick

auto leveling

self explanatory
May 03, 2013, 11:11 AM
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Hi,
It looks very cool. But I don't have any background experience with multiwii.. Do you guys think this is a good way to start?
How hard can it get to program multiwii?
May 03, 2013, 11:20 AM
Wicked, tricksy, false!
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Interesting.
Subscribed.
-mike-
May 03, 2013, 11:49 AM
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Does anybody know where Hobbyking uploads their open-source modifications?
It would be great to mess around with this Quad, but where are their modifications to the source code? Do you think they adjusted the output as there are no brushless ESCs on this one?
May 03, 2013, 01:17 PM
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Anyone with the patience to explain me how this works?....im a noob, but im interested in it.

What Tx can you use to control it?...what does multiwii means?...you can program it or what?
Sorry guys, but I got not idea of how this works.

Thanks if anyone takes his time to explain something to me.

Cheers
May 03, 2013, 01:22 PM
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It looked at it now, looks great.

What module should i use on turnigy 9xr to work with this?

Dont work with the flysky module right?
May 03, 2013, 01:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostMaster
It looked at it now, looks great.

What module should i use on turnigy 9xr to work with this?

Dont work with the flysky module right?
You need the DSM2 OrangeRx module to work with this, no flysky support.


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