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Mar 14, 2013, 04:02 PM
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My Dare Marionette Slow Flyer

I built one of these years ago and flew it indoors and outdoors on calm mornings. When trimmed and flying well this model can do figure 8's in half a basketball court. This one uses an old Spektrum AR6000 receiver, two HS-55 servos, a Pixie(?) brushed motor speed control and 800mah 2 cell lipo packs. I need a few more rpm to gain altitude better and think maybe the old 2 cell packs are tired and should be re-tired. Geared motor is old GWS IPS "A" with 8x6 slow fly prop as recommended in kit instructions.Duration at full rpm is about 4 minutes. Model will thermal on any rising air current. Thread flying wires from kit have sagged. Covering is Coverlite or other lw iron on covering I had on hand. O-ring tires came off wheels.
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Mar 14, 2013, 06:01 PM
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The old Lipo are probably tired as you say, the 12mm motor in the GWS IPS "A" has short lived brushes too! Does Dare still exist?
Mar 14, 2013, 07:51 PM
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Still in business, bought out by Brodak I think, same website:
Mar 15, 2013, 04:29 PM
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Nice job you've made of it too!
Just finished a Demoiselle..23" span, 4oz Flying weight... albeit with cambered sheet foam wings .
It was too easy not to.
A wee 1811 (10 gram)HK hxt motor is ample power .
Assuming your IPS motor isn't healthy, unlikely unless you have many hours on it, affordable replacements can be found , identified as a Geared tail rotor motor on a series of Helis. Try Helidirect etc..
IMO a wee BL motor would be both lighter and more powerful though.
Mar 15, 2013, 05:05 PM
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Lighter might not be an asset in that case(very short front length)as the GWS IPS "A" is quite heavy compared to an equivalent brushless set-up. But then again would allow for a larger Lipo for balancing!
Mar 15, 2013, 10:48 PM
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I found a light weight and small, squarish 800mah 2S 10C Park Zone Lipo that will probably improve climb a lot from added oomph plus lighter weight. I added a "front porch" to hold the battery pack more forward and CG is now about right. You have to zig zag to move foreward in a slight breeze and be ready for sudden up and down drafts. It's kinda hypnotic to watch.

PS the new 800ma 2S lipo did the trick. I may try the nickle-sized Erc 280 22g outrunner that I just bought from HL. Not interested in really tiny models, like larger ones that can fly indoors or outdoors on calm mornings using less exotic/fiddly power and RC gear.
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