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Mar 09, 2013, 12:05 AM
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Excellent. I wont tell you that you need to change to my system and id appreciate the same in return. Now if we could just get ET off our backs.
I'm really sorry man - I honestly hadn't appreciated how YOU joining MY thread would translate to ME getting on YOUR back
Mar 09, 2013, 12:07 AM
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You know that will never happen. We need him to keep on telling us how bad that the U.S. is.
Check out my OP Mike

This is a thread about HOW GOOD the UK is

No mention of the US being bad that I can find
Mar 09, 2013, 12:43 AM
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So the majority do get care, like his, according to your own argument.

You're willing to harm the health care of the majority to benefit who you value more?
lol!

Right wing morals = 45% of people not getting proper healthcare because they can't afford is just fne

regards
Mar 09, 2013, 02:15 AM
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I don't know what kind of care you get, but it would be very hard to beat what we get with our family Dr. And, I'm not rich by any account. If I want to see my Dr. I can usually see him the same day. And, I usually arrive a bit early for my appointment, and many times I'm in my car on the way home at the time my appointment was scheduled for.
Me bad .
It would have been fairer to say that an American would have to be either rich or married to a family doctor to recieve the level of service I get.
Mar 09, 2013, 02:18 AM
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And I told you about my step son who gets very good medical care, no money no insurance. And, until I met his mother she was a Democrat. I don't think he has ever voted. He for darn sure ain't rich. And, I am not either. We have enough but that's about all. You DON'T HAVE TO BE RICH IN The U.S. TO GET GOOD MEDICAL CARE. Please keep up.
Does that make the US system in practise much like the UK system. People who can afford to pay for it do so. People who can't afford to pay for it get treatment anyway?
Mar 09, 2013, 02:24 AM
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Does that make the US system in practise much like the UK system. People who can afford to pay for it do so. People who can't afford to pay for it get treatment anyway?
good point
Mar 09, 2013, 02:28 AM
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To understand why us Brits are so protective of our NHS it might help to read up on the beginings of it. It came out of WW2. A time when the nation was united and it wasn't about who was rich or poor or paying tax or being paid out of taxation (fighting Rommel in North Africa for example). War is a great leveller when it comes to evaluating people's worth in a society.
Mar 09, 2013, 08:57 AM
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I'm really sorry man - I honestly hadn't appreciated how YOU joining MY thread would translate to ME getting on YOUR back
You trashed good responsible Americans in your op dude.
Mar 09, 2013, 09:11 AM
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Does that make the US system in practise much like the UK system. People who can afford to pay for it do so. People who can't afford to pay for it get treatment anyway?
I don't know anything about the U.K. system. All I know is what kind of care my step son gets. He sees a Dr. from the Houston Medical Center which is about as good as it gets any place in the world. He doesn't have insurance, and he has no money, but, yes, he gets very good care.There is one disadvantage, we have to drive farther to get to his Drs. than his mother and I have to go to get to our providers. Our Drs. are only about five miles from where we live. His daughter is handicapped, has Cerebral Palsy. She can't work, doesn't have insurance, and she also gets good medical care, including dental. It seems like most of the bad that is posted about medical care in the U.S. is posted by the far left. And, it seems that they have an agenda, to let the Govt. take control of just about every part of our lives. I don't think you will see many conservatives posting how bad the care we have available here in the U.S.
Mar 09, 2013, 09:17 AM
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So - all you Obamacare haters, how does that stack up against your expensive insurance jobbies ?
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You trashed good responsible Americans in your op dude.
Really? Questioning Obamacare haters is trashing good responsible Americans?

Me thinks thou doth protest too much. So you know where the OP statement is coming from here's a chart re comparitive costs between the US and the rest of us:
Last edited by Sport Flyer; Mar 09, 2013 at 09:24 AM. Reason: adding chart
Mar 09, 2013, 10:16 AM
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I don't know anything about the U.K. system. All I know is what kind of care my step son gets. He sees a Dr. from the Houston Medical Center which is about as good as it gets any place in the world. He doesn't have insurance, and he has no money, but, yes, he gets very good care.There is one disadvantage, we have to drive farther to get to his Drs. than his mother and I have to go to get to our providers. Our Drs. are only about five miles from where we live. His daughter is handicapped, has Cerebral Palsy. She can't work, doesn't have insurance, and she also gets good medical care, including dental. It seems like most of the bad that is posted about medical care in the U.S. is posted by the far left. And, it seems that they have an agenda, to let the Govt. take control of just about every part of our lives. I don't think you will see many conservatives posting how bad the care we have available here in the U.S.
So, in essence, what you are saying is that you have family members who get very good healthcare, paid for by the taxes of American citizens and provided by the state, because they cannot afford to pay health insurance, yet you are simultaneously decrying the involvement of Government in the process?

If it was not for that state provided healthcare what would those family members do?
Mar 09, 2013, 10:18 AM
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You trashed good responsible Americans in your op dude.
Twaddle

Read it again - concentrate for a while and get back to me with why you think that

I'm more than happy to parley with you, but you have to stop getting a big fat five when you add 2+2
Mar 09, 2013, 10:23 AM
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lol!

Right wing morals = 45% of people not getting proper healthcare because they can't afford is just fne

regards
Left wing morals = hurting 55% to favor 45% they favor on the basis of their own feelings.
Mar 09, 2013, 10:24 AM
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Left wing morals = hurting 55% to favor 45% they favor on the basis of their own feelings.
Without compassion for the most vulnerable in your society you have nothing
Mar 09, 2013, 10:32 AM
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Obama haters translates to productive high information voters supporting loosers.


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