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Jun 27, 2013, 10:53 PM
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Very sneaky with the well placed clear plastic webs ! :-)
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Jun 28, 2013, 04:42 PM
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So that's how the 3D version gets enough lift. Very cool Otto.
Jun 29, 2013, 05:01 AM
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Hey Otto
Just saw a article about Superman and Ironman in one of the Swiss top 3 newspapers.

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/leben/ge...story/14003644



Cheers
Lessram
Jun 29, 2013, 05:54 AM
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I'd love to know more about the new 3D models!
Jun 29, 2013, 10:29 AM

New video of 3Ds


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Jul 14, 2013, 06:33 PM
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Hey Otto!

What's the scoop on the 3D models? Are there plans/kits for sale?

Cheers,
Stew
Jul 14, 2013, 07:33 PM
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Bob Here,

Ottos 3D models are pretty much ONE OFFs !

They are not Mass producible because of all the Carving.

I have Guillermo's , Angel Wings, plus Flyguy 62 and 46's in stock.

The 3d stuff was never intended for everyone.

Best

Bob
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Jul 14, 2013, 09:59 PM
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Would he be interested in showing us how?
Labor intensive I'm sure, but I'd be willing to try if shown how. I just love them!!!

Walter
Jul 14, 2013, 10:07 PM
I ask a lot of questions.
@BOB...They do look awesome. And as Walter said he would try to make one (with assistance of a sample of how to do it), I'm sure there would be many more model makers wanting to try as well.

Cheers,
Stew
Jul 14, 2013, 10:26 PM
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Otto and Bob, give it some thought. Let a few of us with foam and fiberglass skills try our hand at it. It could lead to something great!
Jul 14, 2013, 11:46 PM
I'll give it some thought. One issue is how to describe the process. This build process is more sculpting than building and the product does take a fair stick to fly. Superman was carved to the Flyguy drawings from 1 lb foam block.
Jul 15, 2013, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Otto Dieffenbach
I'll give it some thought. One issue is how to describe the process. This build process is more sculpting than building and the product does take a fair stick to fly. Superman was carved to the Flyguy drawings from 1 lb foam block.
I'd *bet* it could be CNC-hotwired in a production environment. Not carved down to the final smoothness but to a 'moderately rough' outline that the end user smooths out. I'd *bet* they could be cranked out in ten minutes including setup.

Maybe the FlyingFoam.com folks could offer some advice.

Wouldn't it be awesome to hang a 'hotwire hand' on the end of a robotic arm! I wonder if anyone's ever done that? But to do a complex shape like a human the programming is a monster task.
Jul 15, 2013, 12:29 AM
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Is it just a hollowed out block of foam or is there an internal built up structure?
Jul 15, 2013, 07:43 AM
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I am sure that a 3D hot wire could be done.
But at what cost ?
Heck, I could CARVE them out of a big Styrofoam Block in my CNC
but that would require 15-20 hrs machine time. do the math ...

3D parts will also require a large box and much higher shipping.

Here's an example of why not:
I tried making those Skeleton Dino Models out of Plywood, scaled up to 4-8 foot size.
Oh boy everyone wanted them for the front yard until they got a price.
Ref pix below.

The cost of JUST the plywood was putting people off let alone the CNC time charges
and even that left nothing for the massive engineering time invested.

I saw a very similar offering at a Dino Museum in Colorado that had been
done on a CNC Plasma cutter in 1/4 Steel it was $750.

What Otto has done is to take off the shelf parts as much as possible.
Like Manikin Heads and large Styrofoam Balls and then added other unavailable
parts by carving.
Beyond that he "simply" used his aviation intuition and experience.

My involvement was very minimal.

Best

Bob
Hoosier Cutout Service

PS
Hmmmm??? maybe Otto should try something in the Mothra and Godzilla genre.
Last edited by birdofplay; Jul 15, 2013 at 10:17 AM.
Jul 15, 2013, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Walter57
Is it just a hollowed out block of foam or is there an internal built up structure?
Pretty much foam block with a support structure for the motor.


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