Apr 15, 2013, 02:11 PM

Guillermo and Jack


I designed a portly suited man and a normal suited man for some fun. Guillermo has his own thread and the normal suited man is just a modification of Guillermo. Both fly very well and Jack has answered some questions about head size in design.

Here is the Guillermo thread:

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show....php?t=1865998

Here is a video of Jack. For those in the East, Jack in the Box is a fast food chain with fun commercials featuring Jack.

Jack in the Box Flying at Mission Bay (SEFSD) by Otto Dieffenbach (0 min 55 sec)
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Apr 16, 2013, 07:22 AM
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Guillermo is now available at Hoosier Cutout Service.

Bob
Apr 16, 2013, 12:06 PM
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Laser cut PLy parts were received this PM !
Apr 16, 2013, 01:19 PM
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I gave up on Elastigirl. Not sure if it was the small size or the 2 mm Depron deforming too much but she was just unstable as all get out in roll.
Apr 16, 2013, 01:25 PM
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2mm ???

I use 3mm for the 31" FG's

Did you use any CF for stiffening ?
Apr 16, 2013, 04:38 PM
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No I didn't. But she was only 16 inches tall. I hoped it would be stiff enough since my 22 flyguy worked fine in 3 mm.
Apr 17, 2013, 09:14 AM
Me thinks, too many variables to figure her out.
Apr 17, 2013, 11:01 AM
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I might try a 3 mm version someday. Probably just the arms and back would be enough. The rest of her has structure but the arms are pure bending.
Apr 21, 2013, 10:56 PM
Jack in the Box Flyguy at Del Mar Beach.

Jack in the Box Flying at Del Mar Beach by Otto Dieffenbach (1 min 5 sec)
May 06, 2013, 11:33 AM
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High Altitude flying a Fly Guy.


I am interested in building a Fly Guy for use on a mountain air strip located at 4600 feet of altitude. Does anyone have any experience flying one that high and are there any others considerations I should consider? This would be my first venture into RC aircraft. Thanks. DIck West
May 06, 2013, 11:59 AM
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Good question ?

I once took a .1 OS power airobatic 4 ch plane from Michigan 900 msl to Colorado ~5000msl.
When I 1st tried a hand launch up at the club field near a reservoir north of Golden
it just flopped. I had to really TWEAK that carb to get the MOST out of it to achieve flight.

Quite an eye opener.

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May 06, 2013, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick West View Post
I am interested in building a Fly Guy for use on a mountain air strip located at 4600 feet of altitude. Does anyone have any experience flying one that high and are there any others considerations I should consider? This would be my first venture into RC aircraft. Thanks. DIck West
Having flown RC at 7000 ft for 4 yrs I found you need lower wing loadings and higher pitched props to get sea level performance. Also tip stalls are more severe. Flyguy should be fine as long as you keep him light.
May 06, 2013, 06:03 PM
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I am interested in building a Fly Guy...
This would be my first venture into RC aircraft.
Very short simple 3-word answer DON'T DO IT!!!!!!! DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK 4 words.

I don't mean to -discourage- you, but to *STOP* you. You *CAN'T* fly this thing. What you read here are written by folks with 5/10/40 years experience both building and flying. There are a -hundred- different hings you can do wrong that will make it 1) very likely incapable of -anyone- flying it and/or 2) absolutely definitely incapable of you flying it.

You need a trainer-trainer. And I don't mean a 'T-##' style military aircraft. Those are not trainers either in the sense that they are not the -first- plane the pilot flies.

Get an Apprentice. Find and INSTRUCTOR so you will crash-rebuild-crash-rebuild it only about 3 times before you become 'capable' rather than a dozen rounds of crash-rebuild.

Next, get a T-28. That's a good -second- trainer, not first.

Again I don't meant to discourage you. While you're learning the 'true trainers' you can gather the parts and build the FlyGuy. Along the way, while doing crash-rebuilds on the trainers, you find out about a few dozen things you did -wrong- on the FlyGuy, and change them.

However you still *CANNOT* maiden the FlyGuy.

Have your INSTRUCTOR review and maiden it. Or if you are beyond the instructor stage you *still* need to ask another expert to guru class pilot to maiden it. First he will find the dozen things you need to do to make it 'potentially flyable.' Then he will *trim* it in flight. He will advise you on the characteristics that make it 'different' from your trainers. (Every design is anywhere from mildly to drastically-spectacularly different.) Then and -only- then can you fly it.

I'm not even sure it'd make a reasonable 3rd plane. Only your mentor/instructor/advisor can gauge your skills vs the FlyGuy's 'skill requirements' as to whether it's possible.

I'm *NOT* trying to discourage you from flying. I'm trying to advise you on the *best* way to *learn*.

BTW bigger is always better/easier. I have seen a ton of people learn very quickly on Apprentice. It's a pussycat but with aerobatic potential. Especially for a newbie larger FlyGuy will definitely be easier than smaller.
May 07, 2013, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jbarchuk View Post
Very short simple 3-word answer DON'T DO IT!!!!!!! DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK 4 words.

I don't mean to -discourage- you, but to *STOP* you. You *CAN'T* fly this thing. What you read here are written by folks with 5/10/40 years experience both building and flying. There are a -hundred- different hings you can do wrong that will make it 1) very likely incapable of -anyone- flying it and/or 2) absolutely definitely incapable of you flying it.

You need a trainer-trainer. And I don't mean a 'T-##' style military aircraft. Those are not trainers either in the sense that they are not the -first- plane the pilot flies.

Get an Apprentice. Find and INSTRUCTOR so you will crash-rebuild-crash-rebuild it only about 3 times before you become 'capable' rather than a dozen rounds of crash-rebuild.

Next, get a T-28. That's a good -second- trainer, not first.

Again I don't meant to discourage you. While you're learning the 'true trainers' you can gather the parts and build the FlyGuy. Along the way, while doing crash-rebuilds on the trainers, you find out about a few dozen things you did -wrong- on the FlyGuy, and change them.

However you still *CANNOT* maiden the FlyGuy.

Have your INSTRUCTOR review and maiden it. Or if you are beyond the instructor stage you *still* need to ask another expert to guru class pilot to maiden it. First he will find the dozen things you need to do to make it 'potentially flyable.' Then he will *trim* it in flight. He will advise you on the characteristics that make it 'different' from your trainers. (Every design is anywhere from mildly to drastically-spectacularly different.) Then and -only- then can you fly it.

I'm not even sure it'd make a reasonable 3rd plane. Only your mentor/instructor/advisor can gauge your skills vs the FlyGuy's 'skill requirements' as to whether it's possible.

I'm *NOT* trying to discourage you from flying. I'm trying to advise you on the *best* way to *learn*.

BTW bigger is always better/easier. I have seen a ton of people learn very quickly on Apprentice. It's a pussycat but with aerobatic potential. Especially for a newbie larger FlyGuy will definitely be easier than smaller.
Great points and sound advice!
May 07, 2013, 08:39 AM

New video of my Flyguy 46 as Ironman 3


Ironman 3 Airshow made from Flyguy 46 by Otto Dieffenbach (1 min 25 sec)


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