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Jan 03, 2018, 02:19 PM
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Rig Question


I hope someone here can help me out.

I am from the US living and working in The Netherlands for a few years. I have a MM, Nirvana, Seawind and IOM with me. I have been told the Dragon Force 65 uses many of the same size parts as the MM (Rig Accessories, etc). I need to build a couple of new rigs due to the wind over here for my MM and wanted to know if the Dragon force rigs would work with little or no mods and if you the Dragon Force 65 is shroudless in all the rigs? if so, are the CF Masts wrapped or standard? How do the rigs hold up in strong wind?

I know the short easy answer would be to purchase a DF 65 or 95. Maybe when I return to the US in a few years.

Thanks again for your help.

DW
Jan 03, 2018, 05:03 PM
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Hi DW

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Originally Posted by dwatson
I hope someone here can help me out.

I am from the US living and working in The Netherlands for a few years. I have a MM, Nirvana, Seawind and IOM with me. I have been told the Dragon Force 65 uses many of the same size parts as the MM (Rig Accessories, etc). I need to build a couple of new rigs due to the wind over here for my MM and wanted to know if the Dragon force rigs would work with little or no mods and if you the Dragon Force 65 is shroudless in all the rigs? if so, are the CF Masts wrapped or standard? How do the rigs hold up in strong wind?

I know the short easy answer would be to purchase a DF 65 or 95. Maybe when I return to the US in a few years.

Thanks again for your help.

DW
Both the DF 65 and the 95 have shroudless rigs.

DF 65 rig accessories are pretty good to be used on a Micro Magic. The original gooseneck/boom vang (kicking strap) assembly was derived from accessories used on the custom Micro Magics that were built in the UK. The CF masts are a 6.0mm unidirectional construction - which makes them more prone to splitting than the wrapped CF masts (such as Skyshark). Joysway have mitigated this through supplying metal collars for the mast ends.

I've sailed DF's in very strong winds and the masts (with the metal collars) show no signs of splitting.

If you are setting up fractional rigs on the Micro Magic (although most heavy weather rigs appear to be masthead these days), you may need to reinforce the jib hounds area of the mast with wind-around CF line and resin (much like how people wrap fishing rods when they are attaching the line eyes).

Hope this helps!

Karl Texler
Last edited by Karlthevet; Jan 03, 2018 at 05:13 PM.
Jan 03, 2018, 06:39 PM
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Joysway have mitigated this through supplying metal collars for the mast ends. I've sailed DF's in very strong winds and the masts (with the metal collars) show no signs of splitting.
I build custom masts myself using 6mm dia. carbon tubes. To avoid the splitting, I put a 15cm long rod that fits tightly inside the bottom end of the mast (with epoxy), and wrap the top end in some strong string, fixed in place with ciano. Sailed it in strong winds several times, no issues at all. If you want to see some photos let me know.
Jan 03, 2018, 08:53 PM
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I build custom masts myself using 6mm dia. carbon tubes. To avoid the splitting, I put a 15cm long rod that fits tightly inside the bottom end of the mast (with epoxy), and wrap the top end in some strong string, fixed in place with ciano. Sailed it in strong winds several times, no issues at all. If you want to see some photos let me know.
Thanks for the info.

Yes, if you have photos I could see that would be great.

DW
Jan 04, 2018, 06:13 AM
Thomas Armstrong
Ok, take a look a these (and remember the 15cm rod inside bottom of mast cannot be seen):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomas...ng/15433808770
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomas...ng/15432754849
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomas...ng/15619419535
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomas...ng/14998654124

Full photolog here (includes mold, hull, keel, bulb, rudder, and everything else, for two RGs):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomas...57639976683944
Jan 11, 2018, 03:02 AM
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Metal Mast Ring Size


I live in The Netherlands and about to build some rigs for my MM incorporating the mast rings from the DF 65. In order to purchase the correct carbon tubes, can someone tell the ID of the mast rings?

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David
Jan 14, 2018, 04:59 PM
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Hi David

The mast rings have the following ID:

Joysway 880551 Dragon Force 65 Protection Metal Ring For Mast (Pk of 10)

This information was lifted off the Australian Hobby Warehouse site:

https://www.hobbywarehouse.com.au/jo...-pk-of-10.html

I'm sure there are wholesalers closer to you, though.

The carbon fibre tube you need must have a 6.0mm external diameter.

Cheers!

Karl Texler
Jan 15, 2018, 05:32 AM
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HI David,
go here you can get all the bits you want...
www.radiosailing.co.uk/ Postage details are at the bottom of the first page. They are also very good at answering emails so drop them a note.
Jan 15, 2018, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dwatson
I live in The Netherlands and about to build some rigs for my MM incorporating the mast rings from the DF 65. In order to purchase the correct carbon tubes, can someone tell the ID of the mast rings?

Thanks
David
Following is a link to mast set that includes carbon tubes and metal rings. (DF65 clone made by the same company that makes DF65 and DF95)
I have these masts for rigs A, B and C. Have had the C-rig out in 25-35 knots gusting to 40 with rolling waves. No issues. Also holds up to ocean sailing in 20kt winds.
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/mast-set...etal-ring.html
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/jib-boom...etal-ring.html
Hydropro C-rig. Cape point NC (0 min 49 sec)
Last edited by SteveMongr; Jan 15, 2018 at 06:21 AM.


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