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Old Jan 29, 2013, 09:24 AM
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I have to say though, growing up on the farm, we used these propane bottles all the time and never took the torch heads off. Never had em leak down. Wonder if its just a cheaper method they use now a days? Just strange something that growing up with , we never had an issue with, but I as well have seen these cylinder leak as of recently.
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 11:32 AM
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Here's one more: I manage the machine shop for an R&D firm here in California. A few years back, I was soldering some project components together, using a propane torch. It was a fairly intricate assembly and I had everything jigged up on my welding table. At the day's end, I still had some soldering to do, but figured I'd wrap it up in the morning. I turned the torch off, shut out the lights and went home. You can imagine my surprise the following morning, when I turned the gas valve on to light the torch--and it reignited on its own. Yep, the valve didn't close completely and the torch had been "idling" all night. There probably wasn't any real danger, since it was sitting on a large metal welding table, but the thought did occur to me that this could have happened anywhere that torch was used. So, once I finish using a propane torch, I remove the cylinder from the torch head.
Old Jan 29, 2013, 12:19 PM
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Gas and combustable detectors are also a good idea in the house and garage. Just like a CO or smoke detector, they plug in to 110 volts and will warn you when there is a problem. Nitro fuel, gas, thinners, paint, propane, and any spray cans can all be dangerous, if not stored in a dry,vented, temperate location. The garage is NOT alwaws the best spot ! Some sheds and garages get HOT, too hot to store flamibles. A cool not too cold well vented location is the best place to store all fuels, thinners, and paint. Water base products are good if they do not get too cold or too hot, and need little venting. Some houses have a block wall cellar under a front or back poarch, that could be ok. A vented area is not easy to find in some homes. Keep items of concern away from exits and away from ignition sources.

Common sence and reading all lables will help you store your hazadous items in a safe place.

LIPO Batteries should also be delt with as an explosive, and properly disposed of when they are no good.

I will have to go move some Nitro fuel, as I have a new can just inside the side door.

The Caps for Propane is a good idea, and I think I will get some, seeing as I have 6 or 7 cylinders for plumbing and camping at any given time.
Old Jan 29, 2013, 01:28 PM
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I have both propane and mapp gas cylinders under my bench, and have never had any leaking problems.
oooh kaaay then.
Old Jan 29, 2013, 04:01 PM
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For those that have a house w/ the water heater in the garage (typical), it's prolly not a good idea to keep these kind of tanks in there too. Just saying.
Old Jan 29, 2013, 07:37 PM
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As a Canadian, This poses an interesting problem due to the nature of our houses.

Most houses are intricately and hermetically sealed for insulation purposes. We also have extensive furnace systems and water heater systems, most often in the "developed" or "semi-developed" full basement, something that i have found to be quite different from American houses, especially in the South. My Girlfriend is Floridian, and the differences in both average build quality and structural design is very apparent. While us Calgarians tend to have detached single family homes that are constructed of primarily wood and drywall resting on a 10-12 foot deep foundation of poured concrete, I have observed that houses in the Tampa area are primarily constructed of Masonry products, although this is just an observation that i haven't really thought of till now.

My current house has centrally monitored Fire (both IR Heat and Smoke), Explosive gas and CO detectors, as both mandated and recommended by the current building code due to the extensive use of piped NG as a primary fuel source. I would never consider actually storing flammable gas or liquid products in what is essentially a tinderbox. My garage services this purposes amicably, except that liquids tend to freeze at -45C.

TL;DR: lack of ventilation + wood house = lolfire
Old Jan 29, 2013, 09:35 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 09:40 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2013, 09:47 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 03:44 AM
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 02:27 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 03:44 PM
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Well if your water heater, which has a pilot flame, is in your basement, and your garage doesn't have any pilot flames for anything in it, keeping your propane cylinder in the garage seems perfectly fine. Most houses in the US are also made of wood and drywall. But in hurricane or tornado areas, houses made from masonry products is typical due to better structural integrity.

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As a Canadian, This poses an interesting problem due to the nature of our houses.

Most houses are intricately and hermetically sealed for insulation purposes. We also have extensive furnace systems and water heater systems, most often in the "developed" or "semi-developed" full basement, something that i have found to be quite different from American houses, especially in the South. My Girlfriend is Floridian, and the differences in both average build quality and structural design is very apparent. While us Calgarians tend to have detached single family homes that are constructed of primarily wood and drywall resting on a 10-12 foot deep foundation of poured concrete, I have observed that houses in the Tampa area are primarily constructed of Masonry products, although this is just an observation that i haven't really thought of till now.

My current house has centrally monitored Fire (both IR Heat and Smoke), Explosive gas and CO detectors, as both mandated and recommended by the current building code due to the extensive use of piped NG as a primary fuel source. I would never consider actually storing flammable gas or liquid products in what is essentially a tinderbox. My garage services this purposes amicably, except that liquids tend to freeze at -45C.

TL;DR: lack of ventilation + wood house = lolfire
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Old Jan 31, 2013, 08:54 PM
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We had a Phosgene cyl rupture at the plant one evening. When a high pressure cyl fails it does incredible things...We had a new guy who had only been there a couple of days and he suddenly decided the gas biz was not for him. The reaction in the cyl had to go past 10,000 psi to cause that type of failure. We traced it back to a caustic suck back into the cyl before filling...What a mess. Thank goodness no one was working that night.
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