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Jan 27, 2013, 01:41 PM
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Thanks Jens. Airfoil is near Zone2 but a little bit better . 253gr is weight very close to calculating minimum for this model in today's technological level (if not degrade strength)
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Jan 27, 2013, 01:41 PM
hot air rises...
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From 150 sec. video I learned more ,then from 5 years reading " expert builders" posts.
Great plane,excellent job,neat builder.
Would buy with confidence.
Thank You Alex.
Yuri
No doubt!
Jan 28, 2013, 09:52 AM
Yes..ok..maybe..lol.....
Very impressive video!!!
How is airfoil better then Zone2??
Jan 28, 2013, 10:53 AM
Jens Hoffmann
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you didn't see the wink

I don't have to explain, I know it's better
Jan 28, 2013, 11:22 AM
Yes..ok..maybe..lol.....
Yes.......I know a lot of things that are better....but then I explain why................

Anyway..beautiful dlg...keep up the great work..always great to see new dlgs.
Jan 28, 2013, 12:11 PM
Jens Hoffmann
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Jan 28, 2013, 12:30 PM
Father of Fr3aK, DLG Pilot
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Zone V2 isn't very popular in Europe.
Jan 28, 2013, 01:11 PM
Jens Hoffmann
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For and against, is what I think a combo of, flyingstyle,local weathertypes and personal references.
I know foils that is highly recomended in the US, can't perform to my satisfaction, not even the Polaris that has a great succes in the States, really flies in europe, except from sweden. Climate over here differs a lot from country to country.
I know people will say weather is weather, but getting the weather from the atlantic, isn't always fun,
I guess we all have our favorites. /

Those who'll attend the worlds, will learn.
Jan 28, 2013, 01:26 PM
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lost in translation.
Jan 28, 2013, 03:39 PM
Aurora Builder
Yes, I am not sure why foil choice matters dependent on your choice of country. I think it comes back to the Europeans thinking they can always do better than an American
Jan 28, 2013, 03:43 PM
Aurora Builder
Great looking ship BTW, it would be fun to compare against true ZV2 stateside. I bet the differences aren't all that great.
Jan 28, 2013, 04:13 PM
Jens Hoffmann
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your'e probly right, just a matters of skill :-)
Jan 28, 2013, 08:08 PM
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and here's a video of the wingmoldingprocess done by Aleksey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVnep_J-S7M
Hmm, wish I could get the normal speed HD version of that video. It's always fun to see how others build light wings!
Jan 29, 2013, 04:40 AM
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Looks great! Never truly appreciated the amount of work that does into a DLG. That video sure showed why a well built craft costs the amount it does.

Pm-Ed you Jens.
Jan 29, 2013, 05:47 AM
Father of Fr3aK, DLG Pilot
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Hmm, wish I could get the normal speed HD version of that video. It's always fun to see how others build light wings!
Alot of the video was time lapse. The whole video was probably many hours. I've tried to compile a time lapse video of making stuff and mine always look horrible. Composites, CAD, CNC, and flying have my head full. There's no room for video editing skills.

A couple of notes... I love the way you build the disser frame as an overlay rather than having it part of the fabric. This definitely puts a different spin on things. It looks like there are several cutouts and recesses at the root of the core. Are these for wing attachment and wire channels, or is there something else (like a small joiner) going on there? I also like the way you put the sparcaps on the core rather than on the skin in the layup. I have always put them on the skin and wet / rolled / debulked them as a part of the skin. I may try wetting them out separately and placing on the core instead.

Very very nice video. I'm jealous of the shop area. I have to complete the top half of my layup, move the mold, complete the bottom half, move it again, and join the halves because my shop is so small.


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