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Jan 14, 2013, 02:26 PM
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As a full scale pilot for many years, I've read NTSB reports here in the United States related to hundreds of incidents. If I know how other seemingly intelligent people managed to crash their airplanes, maybe I'll avoid repeating their mistakes. It's amazing how many of these incidents are related to haste, carelessness, and a level of certainty that this will never happen to "me."

Curiosity about these events is natural and healthy IMHO.
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Jan 14, 2013, 03:06 PM
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It's great to see this thread continuing. I agree it's good to try hard and not repeat the safety mistakes of others.

A few days ago I posted an RC Flying Club Safety Plan project website. It has a detailed outline that RC flying clubs can use to enhance their field safety procedures by starting a Safety Plan that is more than just posting rules. Thanks go out to Ryan (RCG:rdwoebke) and Sherman Knight (RCG:duworm) of SASS for their kickstarting inputs.

I hope in some small way it will get the ball rolling for some clubs to make safety improvements.

Chris B.
Jan 14, 2013, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rdwoebke
I wouldn't even know where to begin with those bank numbers. I do know though that in the past when fund raisers have been done here for RC glider causes (granted typically for a bit more happy causes but I do know in the past fund raising was done for Mark Smith when he was battling cancer) that a paypal account for receiving funds was setup. I would definitely make at least a small gift to the family via paypal. I think others here might do the same.

Ryan
Ryan, The link has an email address on it. You might want to give that a shot.
Jan 14, 2013, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tom43004
As a full scale pilot for many years, I've read NTSB reports here in the United States related to hundreds of incidents. If I know how other seemingly intelligent people managed to crash their airplanes, maybe I'll avoid repeating their mistakes. It's amazing how many of these incidents are related to haste, carelessness, and a level of certainty that this will never happen to "me."

Curiosity about these events is natural and healthy IMHO.
I often notice that mentality in the way people charge their lipo batteries.
Jan 18, 2013, 04:29 AM
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They say something like 95 percent of all full size aircraft accidents are from human error . That leaves 5 percent to mechanical failure.

we need to be informed about any and all dangers to avoid repeating them . It doesnt make us appear dangerous as much as it does responsible . Im a landowner with a somewhat closed airstrip. Had I read a thread like this with guys suggesting to keep events like this secret I would know for sure I had irresponsible pilots flying on my land
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Feb 04, 2013, 10:53 AM
homo ludens modellisticus
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Januari 9th 2013, an article in the Stuttgarter Zeitung

The accident is absoluty a one off
translate...www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.modellsegelflug-am-gruenen-heiner-der-unfall-ist-ein-absoluter-einzelfal

... According to Hans Hussak is so far nothing ever happened, except perhaps here and there a bruise on one of the weekend pilot(s rvs) ...
What the f...???

edit: added rvs

Vriendelijke groeten Ron

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Feb 04, 2013, 02:23 PM
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Thanks Ron for the update!

Marc
Feb 04, 2013, 04:08 PM
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That vintage sailplane is pretty epic.
Mar 05, 2013, 04:56 PM
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Mar 06, 2013, 08:46 AM
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as a full scale glider pilot i read the uk magazine "sailplane and gliding" and a section in it about reported accidents, causes, circumstances, injuries, plane types etc etc.
i find it invaluable to make me a better pilot.
why learn from your own mistakes when there is so much to learn from others experiences to then be able to avoid incidents in the future.

you have to be blind to think brushing it under the carpet is the best thing to do, and maybe these people should be the last people to be in our hobby???? afterall they are the ones that clearly prefer to learn from THEIR mistakes rather than learn before hand how to be safer!

well thats my opinion.......you? (lol sorry....that gordy thing made me laugh)
Mar 06, 2013, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tom43004
As a full scale pilot for many years, I've read NTSB reports here in the United States related to hundreds of incidents. If I know how other seemingly intelligent people managed to crash their airplanes, maybe I'll avoid repeating their mistakes. It's amazing how many of these incidents are related to haste, carelessness, and a level of certainty that this will never happen to "me."

Curiosity about these events is natural and healthy IMHO.
You seem pretty certain about that.
Mar 06, 2013, 12:39 PM
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Seems to me that standing around unprotected on a bluff with slopers whizzing around in circles at 80+ mph is a situation where accidents can easily happen due to electro-mechanical or human problems such as depth perception, or simple recklessness. I read years ago about a young woman on a beach being impaled and killed by a sailplane and the memory has stuck with me. I have flown model planes and ridden motorcycles for 60 years and am somewhat more safety conscious than most.
Mar 06, 2013, 01:09 PM
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Seems to me that standing around unprotected on a bluff with slopers whizzing around in circles at 80+ mph is a situation where accidents can easily happen due to electro-mechanical or human problems such as depth perception, or simple recklessness. I read years ago about a young woman on a beach being impaled and killed by a sailplane and the memory has stuck with me. I have flown model planes and ridden motorcycles for 60 years and am somewhat more safety conscious than most.
If you have flown on a slope before, you will know that people usually fly out in the lift band, which is away from the edge where people stand. And there are pretty standard norms which most slope flyers observe about not over-flying people, cars, roads, etc. Only the un-initiated would describe slope flying as you have.

Chris
Mar 11, 2013, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by perttime
Posting about it is a healthy reminder that things can go terribly wrong.

Such reminders can make people more safety conscious, and avoid things from going terribly wrong at another time.
Anyone other than a very new pilot should already know this. All it takes is one very small electro/mechanical control problem to put any plane out of control.
Sep 25, 2013, 11:57 PM
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