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Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:06 PM
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USS Obama

Oh nice a boat load of Lib's, who is that up by the spot light ?
Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:08 PM
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Is it a rail gun? I don't think a 4-5" gun could reach that far---even with rocket assist
I'm not sure, when I read about the DD-21(SC-21) it had some sort of huge gun capability, and this one, the DDG-1000 series was changed, it carries missiles, so that might have been one of the changes due to budget cuts. It was a while back when I read about the DD-21, but I will look for the source, it may have been taken down, seems like it was from one of the big defense contractors, had some great renderings and animations...
Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:10 PM
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You don't believe that Ronald Reagan had as much of an impact on history as John Kennedy?

That's ridiculous on its face.
Speaking about faces, what coins does Reagan appear on?



Case closed.
Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:12 PM
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I did find this on Wiki:
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At first the plan was to install a twin-barreled Vertical Gun for Advanced Ships (VGAS), developed from experiments on advanced projectiles for the Iowa battleships, but this was dropped in favour of a conventional 5" gun and two 64-cell VLS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD21
Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:19 PM
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You don't believe that Ronald Reagan had as much of an impact on history as John Kennedy?

That's ridiculous on its face.
Well, I guess this is Reagan's legacy:

The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_...ation_scandals
Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:31 PM
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If I were to have some type of serious head trauma and abandoned Conservatism, would I have a tendency to seek more power than other groups and take revenge on political opponents ?
Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:34 PM
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Speaking about faces, what coins does Reagan appear on?



Case closed.

In your mind, I'm sure it is.
Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:38 PM
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Yes, personally, you toss out the penance of the social programs he passed near the end of his career and you have a power broker who had a lot of rather questionable acts, getting his Navy medal was interesting how that happened, as well as how his pilots of his private plane died. The guy was drunk with it.

I mean to read Robert A. Caro's books on Johnson, his book, the Power Broker on Robert Moses of NYC, is incredible. Really opened my eyes to a lot concerning power in the public sector.
But from what I could read he never served on a destroyer, so why a destroyer for him? Ford and Bush both served on carriers. Carter served on subs. Reagan, well...he made a movie about serving on a carrier.
Old Dec 06, 2012, 11:49 PM
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USS Obama

Wow... the boat that's taking us all to utopia!
Old Dec 07, 2012, 12:26 AM
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But from what I could read he never served on a destroyer, so why a destroyer for him? Ford and Bush both served on carriers. Carter served on subs. Reagan, well...he made a movie about serving on a carrier.
Well, Roosevelt or Lincoln never served on aircraft carriers either... Although FDR was Sec. of the Navy.
Old Dec 07, 2012, 08:02 AM
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Speaking about faces, what coins does Reagan appear on?



Case closed.
John Kennedy is on that coin because he was assasinated. Not because he was a fabulous President.

Many, many people suspect that Kennedy's father "bought" him the 1960 Presidential Election.

He was a lying adulterer who pimped out 19 year old interns to other members of his staff.

He is also said to have had ties to the Mafia through his women.

John Kennedy gave you Vietnam. He believed in Eisenhower's Domino Effect.

I grew up Irish Catholic. My parents revered JFK because he was a charismatic, young, Irish Catholic who became President. Truth is, other than the Cuban Missile Crisis, which he handled admirably, he was a 3 year President that was assassinated.

Had there been the Press coverage then like there is today, he would be viewed entirely differently.
Old Dec 07, 2012, 09:47 AM
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John Kennedy is on that coin because he was assasinated. Not because he was a fabulous President.

Many, many people suspect that Kennedy's father "bought" him the 1960 Presidential Election.

He was a lying adulterer who pimped out 19 year old interns to other members of his staff.

He is also said to have had ties to the Mafia through his women.

John Kennedy gave you Vietnam. He believed in Eisenhower's Domino Effect.

I grew up Irish Catholic. My parents revered JFK because he was a charismatic, young, Irish Catholic who became President. Truth is, other than the Cuban Missile Crisis, which he handled admirably, he was a 3 year President that was assassinated.

Had there been the Press coverage then like there is today, he would be viewed entirely differently.
Like most presidents, he was a complicated man. Still, he was the last one that INSPIRED people in my memory-with the exception of Obama (being the first black in that office).
Old Dec 07, 2012, 09:57 AM
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Like most presidents, he was a complicated man. Still, he was the last one that INSPIRED people in my memory-with the exception of Obama (being the first black in that office).
Inspiration.
Old Dec 07, 2012, 11:59 AM
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More inspiration.
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Tim, you are so correct re: inspiration.


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