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Oct 29, 2012, 07:51 AM
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Why Obama is even doing as well as he is ....


...in this election. And how he got elected in the first place:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video
Oct 29, 2012, 08:26 AM
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You might try looking at the candidates your side nominates.
Oct 29, 2012, 08:32 AM
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Romney/Ryan won't carry their own home states of Michigan/Massachusetts or Wisconsin.
Oct 29, 2012, 11:09 AM
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Look for the usual "he was not a true conservative" excuses if he looses. They will also double down on the crazy instead of looking inward as usual.
Oct 29, 2012, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherlock
Look for the usual "he was not a true conservative" excuses if he looses. They will also double down on the crazy instead of looking inward as usual.
I'll do you one better and say just that NOW.

Romney ISN'T a true conservative, at least in the fiscal/constitutional sense.... he does however hold true in the nutty religious department.
Oct 29, 2012, 11:26 AM
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The nutty religious moonbatty warmongering dept
Oct 29, 2012, 11:56 AM
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hmmm. Coming from someone that is attracted to sheep?
Oct 29, 2012, 12:30 PM
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hmmm. Coming from someone that is attracted to sheep?
Who says I'm attracted to sheep ?
Oct 29, 2012, 12:32 PM
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We know that Romney is not a deep conservative. No new news there.
Oct 29, 2012, 12:39 PM
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We know that Romney is not a deep conservative. No new news there.
That is one of his finer attributes I guess
Oct 29, 2012, 04:08 PM
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That is one of his finer attributes I guess
Really... Why is that? In times of financial strife I have a hard time understanding people being against fiscal conservationism. How are we suppose to get our finances back on track if we continue to spend like there is no tomorrow... Oh wait a minute... I think I understand... To many in this country, there IS no tomorrow. Or, they think if they don't think about tomorrow and it's potential problems, it all goes away.

Helping the less fortunate and sharing the load and all that wonderful stuff are great when you can afford them. Does it make sense to borrow a dollar to feed a less fortunate person when you can't afford to borrow the dollar in the first place? Does it make sense to hold a gun to the head of someone else and force them to pay the dollar you can't afford?

ET, you seem to disregard our internal needs when you argue for who you think we should elect. Of course, I would expect no less. What do you care if our country gets it's economics back in order... as long as you're fears about our international policies are soothed then that's your idea of our best choice. Unfortunately, that's not the way a lot of people see it over here. We want our interests at home to come first and your interests can follow. Makes sense, doesn't it? Would you feel any different if the tables were turned?
Oct 29, 2012, 04:15 PM
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Really... Why is that? In times of financial strife I have a hard time understanding people being against fiscal conservationism. How are we suppose to get our finances back on track if we continue to spend like there is no tomorrow...
It's not so much the fiscal conservatism which has me up-in-arms - it's the scorched-earth social conservatism.

We have:
War on workers rights
War on voting rights
War on environment
War on "all-the-above" energy policy
War on women as equals
War on minorities as humans
War on science as common sense

Our entire eastern seaboard is being pummeled by one of the worst storms in modern history yet, the climate-change deniers claim, "of course it's natural, no need to change any of our habits."

Oct 29, 2012, 04:22 PM
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I don't believe conservatives have a war on all those things. That's hyperbole designed to drive people in one direction. That's the problem with politics these days... Maybe it always was. The partisans have gotten so good at it that they now have come to believe their own hyperbole. It's a stupid situation. A little more honesty in this process is badly needed. I wonder what it's going to take to get that?
Oct 29, 2012, 04:32 PM
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War on science as common sense
Science isn't common sense. If it were, no one would have to teach it.

Here's Obama's war on Math.

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Originally Posted by LcJ
Did anybody hear Obama say to one of the late night host that he had trouble with 7th grade math? If you missed it here it is.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...7th_grade.html

I have no trouble believing that he isn't the only one in power that has no concept of why we are in the problem we are.
Oct 29, 2012, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wiz
Really... Why is that? In times of financial strife I have a hard time understanding people being against fiscal conservationism. How are we suppose to get our finances back on track if we continue to spend like there is no tomorrow... Oh wait a minute... I think I understand... To many in this country, there IS no tomorrow. Or, they think if they don't think about tomorrow and it's potential problems, it all goes away.

Helping the less fortunate and sharing the load and all that wonderful stuff are great when you can afford them. Does it make sense to borrow a dollar to feed a less fortunate person when you can't afford to borrow the dollar in the first place? Does it make sense to hold a gun to the head of someone else and force them to pay the dollar you can't afford?

ET, you seem to disregard our internal needs when you argue for who you think we should elect. Of course, I would expect no less. What do you care if our country gets it's economics back in order... as long as you're fears about our international policies are soothed then that's your idea of our best choice. Unfortunately, that's not the way a lot of people see it over here. We want our interests at home to come first and your interests can follow. Makes sense, doesn't it? Would you feel any different if the tables were turned?
Excellent post. You must be sure the mules that pull the wagon are well fed first.
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