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Nov 07, 2012, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Zr_Flyer
Is it possible to design the board so that it's about the same size as the f3Discovery?

I've downloaded DipTrace to give it a try but I'm a software guy, never tried to design a pcb.


I like where you are taking this JoergSH be really cool if we can get revo running with gps for ~$30
That is just possible if you put the I/O pins on the bottom layer, then the connectors would be downwards...if it's better to you that way it's your choice.
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Nov 07, 2012, 09:38 AM
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LIPO monitor?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...po_users_.html

Adding this circuit to the board will increase its size and I can't increase it much more... So you can add one of those above if you want.
it does not work via telemetry

and is already included in NAZE32. -> http://code.google.com/p/afrodevices/downloads/list
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Nov 07, 2012, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TSC21
That is just possible if you put the I/O pins on the bottom layer, then the connectors would be downwards...if it's better to you that way it's your choice.
I'm thinking pins out to the sides @ 90deg, I'll see if i can pull it off
Nov 07, 2012, 10:08 AM
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it does not work via telemetry

and is already included in NAZE32. -> http://code.google.com/p/afrodevices/downloads/list
in lilvinz created wiki:
"discoveryf3 does not (yet) support telemetry on uart because of the missing USB vsense"
Nov 07, 2012, 10:23 AM
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in lilvinz created wiki:
"discoveryf3 does not (yet) support telemetry on uart because of the missing USB vsense"


then the NAZE32 for 20€
yes a bargain, .... and better.
-> http://abusemark.com/store/index.php...products_id=38

Nov 07, 2012, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Zr_Flyer
Is it possible to design the board so that it's about the same size as the f3Discovery?

I've downloaded DipTrace to give it a try but I'm a software guy, never tried to design a pcb.


I like where you are taking this JoergSH be really cool if we can get revo running with gps for ~$30
That was my first Idea to make the PCB same as Discovery.

Witch GPS Modul will work with? give a link please.


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Nov 07, 2012, 01:57 PM
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then the NAZE32 for 20€
yes a bargain, .... and better.
-> http://abusemark.com/store/index.php...products_id=38

better where?

F3 Discovery:
. cortex M4
. L3GD20, ST MEMs motion sensor, 3-axis digital output gyroscope
+ LSM303DLHC, ST MEMs system-in-package featuring a 3D digital linear acceleration sensor and a 3D digital magnetic sensor
=9 DOF vs 6DOF of NAZE32
. the rest is configurable and can be added
. price ~12$ !!!
Nov 07, 2012, 02:18 PM
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better where?

F3 Discovery:
. cortex M4
. L3GD20, ST MEMs motion sensor, 3-axis digital output gyroscope
+ LSM303DLHC, ST MEMs system-in-package featuring a 3D digital linear acceleration sensor and a 3D digital magnetic sensor
=9 DOF vs 6DOF of NAZE32
. the rest is configurable and can be added
. price ~12$ !!!
be carefull
the f3 on the board is an engineering sample.
no production run yet.
expect pin compatible f3's to be available sometime in late december.
Nov 07, 2012, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TSC21
F3 Discovery:
. cortex M4 .
72 MHz, or 72 MHz
PCB 36x36mm or 100x100mm
STM-GYRO were never fit for Multicopter
GPS

Nov 07, 2012, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JUERGEN_
72 MHz, or 72 MHz
PCB 36x36mm or 100x100mm
STM-GYRO were never fit for Multicopter
GPS

You want someone to port the CC3D code to the Naze?
Now that OP opened their license - why not produce a batch and offer them at costs, JUERGEN?

You could do it the "kickstarter style" on a pre-order base.
Even if you don't take cash up front you could lower your personal risk...
Nov 07, 2012, 04:37 PM
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You want someone to port the CC3D code to the Naze?
Now that OP opened their license - why not produce a batch and offer them at costs, JUERGEN?
what is most CC3D better than on Naze32?
CC3D is a primitive circuit, MPU + CPU

CC3D has not even GPS.
and other sensors, one searches in vain.

Nov 07, 2012, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JUERGEN_
what is most CC3D better than on Naze32?
CC3D is a primitive circuit, MPU + CPU

CC3D has not even GPS.
and other sensors, one searches in vain.

boards are always primitive.
the difference is the software
Nov 07, 2012, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JoergSH
That was my first Idea to make the PCB same as Discovery.

Witch GPS Modul will work with? give a link please.


Jörg
here is the Open Pilot gps http://store.openpilot.org/openpilot...ot-v8-gps.html


This is the one I have ordered http://rctimer.com/index.php?gOo=goo...wt&goodsid=763


There was one at goodluckbuy for $19 but it's gone now, the one from rctimer should work but no guarantees.
Nov 07, 2012, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Zr_Flyer
here is the Open Pilot gps http://store.openpilot.org/openpilot...ot-v8-gps.html


This is the one I have ordered http://rctimer.com/index.php?gOo=goo...wt&goodsid=763


There was one at goodluckbuy for $19 but it's gone now, the one from rctimer should work but no guarantees.
I ordered the openpilot V8 GPs 2 weeks ago when it was IN STOCK to see what all the fancy claims really mean in practice, I am in Australia which is where it ships from, a week later [real laid back shipping] it said shipped, a week later it has not arrived, I am guessing op shipped means we are almost seriously contemplating walking down to the post office, maybe!

The Crius CN-06 V2 works just fine as a GPS 5Hz update is all you can get out of it, but Open Pilot right now can only use it to display your position on a map, nothing else. The uBlox software for setting these things up is excellent.

I fail to see why all you guys are so enthusiastic about the F3, just a few measly dollars saved but in the end it will be nothing like the Revo, wrong CPU, wrong sensors etc. The F4Discovery is much closer, the right CPU for Revo and an MPU6050 costs peanuts, I simply fail to understand this over the top F3 enthusiasm, maybe someone can enlighten me.

EDIT: The open pilot documentation does say that CN-06 has been tested with op and works.
Nov 07, 2012, 11:22 PM
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I ordered the openpilot V8 GPs 2 weeks ago when it was IN STOCK to see what all the fancy claims really mean in practice, I am in Australia which is where it ships from, a week later [real laid back shipping] it said shipped, a week later it has not arrived, I am guessing op shipped means we are almost seriously contemplating walking down to the post office, maybe!

The Crius CN-06 V2 works just fine as a GPS 5Hz update is all you can get out of it, but Open Pilot right now can only use it to display your position on a map, nothing else. The uBlox software for setting these things up is excellent.

I fail to see why all you guys are so enthusiastic about the F3, just a few measly dollars saved but in the end it will be nothing like the Revo, wrong CPU, wrong sensors etc. The F4Discovery is much closer, the right CPU for Revo and an MPU6050 costs peanuts, I simply fail to understand this over the top F3 enthusiasm, maybe someone can enlighten me.

EDIT: The open pilot documentation does say that CN-06 has been tested with op and works.
I'm making it for testing... could you please answer the pm I'd send on the last week please?


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