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Old Oct 09, 2012, 07:21 AM
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If you can't afford a bungee, don't attempt the jump
You're stuck on transmit too then
Old Oct 09, 2012, 07:24 AM
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 07:46 AM
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You can't stop the signal
I'll concede - but how the heck do we unscramble it - the cypher is really bizarre
Old Oct 09, 2012, 07:55 AM
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I see that the OP is in favor of my idea of sterilizing people who CHOSE to accept welfare money from the government.

More surgical sterilzations mean less tax payer funded abortions and less kids to clog the school systems.

Of course, if we are paying for an abortion or supporting a kid the person person's responsible for either or both should be sterilized.

Birth control prevents abortions. So true.
Old Oct 09, 2012, 08:04 AM
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Shooting all convicted criminals reduces the number of repeat offenders and would dramatically reduce government budgets at all levels ... Federal ... State and local ... Just say'n ....
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 09:04 AM
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If you can't afford a bungee, don't attempt the jump
Even beyond that.. Don't have sex with a person that you are not prepared to raise a child with. Babies are the result of sex. You may take steps to prevent it, but babies happen.
Old Oct 09, 2012, 09:12 AM
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They almost never happen with surgical sterilizaton. My vasectomy that I CHOSE to have has been flawless and great.

If someone CHOOSES to accept government money they shouuld get one FOR FREE as part of the deal. Imgaine the savings.
Old Oct 09, 2012, 09:27 AM
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Well, lets try to keep this somewhat in the real world and not fantasy land.

Old people who have already had kids are not the problem here. And that is the VAST majority of the sterilized.
Old Oct 09, 2012, 09:28 AM
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They almost never happen with surgical sterilizaton. My vasectomy that I CHOSE to have has been flawless and great.

If someone CHOOSES to accept government money they shouuld get one FOR FREE as part of the deal. Imgaine the savings.
hardly applicable to 15 year olds

We are however VERY relieved that you've had the op
Old Oct 09, 2012, 10:48 AM
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I see that the OP is in favor of my idea of sterilizing people who CHOSE to accept welfare money from the government.

More surgical sterilzations mean less tax payer funded abortions and less kids to clog the school systems.
....

Birth control prevents abortions. So true.
So you'd like a government sterilization program aimed at people on social assistance, or, in otherwords, the poor. How 1930s Germany of you.
Old Oct 09, 2012, 01:28 PM
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So you'd like a government sterilization program aimed at people on social assistance, or, in otherwords, the poor. How 1930s Germany of you.
People have a choice. If someone chooses not to accept the money then they don;'t have to have the procedure.

If someone needs the money, then, guess what? They don't need any more kids because they can't take care of the ones they have.

You body becomes my property when I am forced to take care of it or it's offspring.

Anyone not wanting to be property should not "sell themselves" to the government for votes.
Old Oct 09, 2012, 04:29 PM
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I'm pretty much an incrementalist, and think it best to make small steps in the desired direction. How about we first try free, no incentive, sterilization, and see how that works out. If it turns out that it does not reduce welfare families, or abortions as we wish, then we can incentivize.
Old Oct 09, 2012, 04:31 PM
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Chances are, a free iPhone 5 would do the trick.

They'd be lined up around the block
Old Oct 09, 2012, 04:39 PM
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Know what? Paying for birth control is way chaeper than abortions or supporting unwed mothers on the dole.
Ah.. That makes too much sense. If we solved the problem what would we have to bitch about?
Old Oct 09, 2012, 04:46 PM
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How about if we paid for NONE of it... That would be cheaper for everyone involved except those RESPONSIBLE. Once they figure out that there are consequences for their irresponsible actions, this would slow back down to the levels of the 1950s...


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