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Old Dec 02, 2012, 07:27 PM
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Here's how to get rid of antisemitism once and for all!
No one says these things. It constantly amazes me that a particular Mid-East trait is to do something awful and then claim your opponents did it. We see this every day in Syria.

Criticizing Israeli actions is not anti-Semitism. Screaming "Death to the Jews!" and "Push the Jews into the Sea" IS!
Old Dec 02, 2012, 07:47 PM
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Criticizing Israeli actions is not anti-Semitism. Screaming "Death to the Jews!" and "Push the Jews into the Sea" IS!
Right....
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Old Dec 02, 2012, 07:49 PM
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Such vitriol. And with a long, pointed nose to boot!

Do you understand that demonizing your opponents does not make them more partial to your views?
Old Dec 02, 2012, 08:09 PM
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Such vitriol. And with a long, pointed nose to boot!

Do you understand that demonizing your opponents does not make them more partial to your views?
Vitriol? Israel's defenders call out "antisemitism" just as the cartoon indicates, for the slightest blame one might put on Israel!
Old Dec 02, 2012, 08:10 PM
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Moshe Sharett's and David Ben Gurion's diaries show that "transfer" of the natives was always on the agenda.
I understand.

A few people say something, and the conspiracy is etched in your mind forever.
Old Dec 02, 2012, 08:12 PM
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Here's how to get rid of antisemitism once and for all! - right, Michael?
Your cartoons, and implications, are silly.
Old Dec 02, 2012, 08:15 PM
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Vitriol? Israel's defenders call out "antisemitism" just as the cartoon indicates, for the slightest blame one might put on Israel!
Being anti-Israel and antisemitic are two completely separate issues.

There was a guy who used to post here, iwannarc, who was proudly both.
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Vitriol? Israel's defenders call out "antisemitism" just as the cartoon indicates, for the slightest blame one might put on Israel!
No, we don't. What we do call out as anti-Semitism are vicious cartoons, propagation of outright lies, and continued calls for the murder or deportation (to where?) of all of the Jews in Israel.

IF the Palestinians and their allies ever proposed a single, multi-cultural state where all are welcome, THAT would be a great starting point. But the Jews are NOT going to leave, EVER. Get that through your head(s)!
Old Dec 02, 2012, 09:17 PM
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IF the Palestinians and their allies ever proposed a single, multi-cultural state where all are welcome, THAT would be a great starting point.
yeah, with an ending point similar to the murder of Folke Bernadotte!
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But the Jews are NOT going to leave, EVER. Get that through your head(s)!
Hey! The crusaders were there colonizing parts of th Holy Land for longer than Israel has existed, but what remains of them?
Old Dec 02, 2012, 09:29 PM
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The crusaders were there colonizing parts of th Holy Land for longer than Israel has existed, but what remains of them?


I agree.

Lots of other nations and religions have tried to colonize and occupy the Holy Land. They all come, some stay very long, but eventually they go.

Only Jews have had a continuous 3,000+ years presence in the Holy Land.
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yeah, with an ending point similar to the murder of Folke Bernadotte!Hey! The crusaders were there colonizing parts of th Holy Land for longer than Israel has existed, but what remains of them?
Taking your question first, the Crusaders left behind lots of churches and Christians, who have been there ever since. They are far safer in Israel than anywhere else in the Middle East.

Regarding your first point, it seems you are blaming all Israelis for all time because of what a few men did. Sound familiar?
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Taking your question first, the Crusaders left behind lots of churches and Christians, who have been there ever since. They are far safer in Israel than anywhere else in the Middle East.
but not from Jews spitting on them and their crosses, apparently, or lewd programs about Jesus and Mary on TV.
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Regarding your first point, it seems you are blaming all Israelis for all time because of what a few men did. Sound familiar?
Nope, but it only takes one rabid zionist to murder, whether it is the one who murdered Bernadotte, or one of Meir Kahane's terrorist loonies such as Baruch Goldstein who gunned down tens of Muslims injuring over 100 worshippers while they were in prayer.
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I understand.

A few people say something, and the conspiracy is etched in your mind forever.
Hey, these were the first officials of Israel, and set the tone for settler belligerence and intransigence.
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Old Dec 03, 2012, 12:23 AM
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I agree.

Lots of other nations and religions have tried to colonize and occupy the Holy Land. They all come, some stay very long, but eventually they go.

Only Jews have had a continuous 3,000+ years presence in the Holy Land.
Really? And they needed to start businesses with Palestinians to show them(mostly from non-tropical east Europe) how to grow Jaffa oranges? The people whose ancestors had stayed there continuously didn't know how?
Old Dec 03, 2012, 09:45 AM
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When are you and yours going to stop dwelling on a distorted vision of the past and Be Here Now?

Oh, but that would be Zen, and it would make you an infidel.


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