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Sep 24, 2012, 12:14 PM
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LoL that just tells me he gave us some of our money back
Sep 24, 2012, 12:15 PM
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Just so you know, tithes to the Mormon Church should be also included under "charitable giving".
Sep 24, 2012, 12:15 PM
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I just showed you a cited graph, yet you still dont accept the facts
Sep 24, 2012, 12:19 PM
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I just showed you a cited graph, yet you still dont accept the facts
the facts show that as president in 2011, Obama gave higher percentage. The argument started by the Right is that Obama didn't give enough when compared to Romney.

When you're making 13.4M a year, it's going to be hard to compete with hard dollars contributions. But that is a BS comparison.
Sep 24, 2012, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DenverJayhawk
If you did a little digging you would see that that is wrong

"Romney didn’t deduct all of his charitable donations for last year. He left $1.8 million in donations off his return in order to live up to a statement he made about always having paid at least a 13 percent tax rate on his income. With his charity write-offs partially held back, Romney overshot that mark a bit for 2011, paying at a 14.1 percent rate."

"The firm also said their average annual effective federal tax rate was 20.2% for the period. And annually, they never paid an effective rate below 13.66%."
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Sep 24, 2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DenverJayhawk
the facts show that as president in 2011, Obama gave higher percentage. The argument started by the Right is that Obama didn't give enough when compared to Romney.

When you're making 13.4M a year, it's going to be hard to compete with hard dollars contributions. But that is a BS comparison.
I JUST showed you where Romeny paid a higher percentage. How do you not see that. You are also twisting words. No one claimed Obama didn't give enough. First of all, the OP was about Two rich old guys, one republican, one democrat. The dem gave a paltry amount, while the R gave freely and greatly. Then the fanboys came in claiming Obama paid a bigger percentage. Except he didn't. Got it now?
Sep 24, 2012, 12:31 PM
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Biden is one of the least wealthy politicians in DC. His net worth is around 1/1,000 of Romney's.

Next.
Sep 24, 2012, 12:35 PM
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Today's schools need to emphasize Arithmetic more.
Sep 24, 2012, 12:38 PM
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Biden is one of the least wealthy politicians in DC. His net worth is around 1/1,000 of Romney's.

Next.
Biden is so generous with what little he makes. LOL.

"The Bidens reported giving $995 in charitable donations last year about 0.3% of their income and the highest amount in the past decade. The low was $120 in 1999, about 0.1% of yearly income.

Over the decade, the Bidens reported a total of $3,690 in charitable donations, or 0.2% of their income."

"The Bidens reported earning $319,853 last year, including $71,000 in royalties for his memoir, Promises to Keep: On Life and Politics."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...inancial_N.htm
Sep 24, 2012, 12:41 PM
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Today's schools need to emphasize Arithmetic more.
I agree. Biden's net worth is essentially zero. In fact, he held more liabilities than assets for much of last year, actually rendering his net worth in negative territory. Romney's net worth is in the 100's of $ millions.
Sep 24, 2012, 12:42 PM
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Biden is so generous with what little he makes. LOL.

"The Bidens reported giving $995 in charitable donations last year about 0.3% of their income and the highest amount in the past decade. The low was $120 in 1999, about 0.1% of yearly income.

Over the decade, the Bidens reported a total of $3,690 in charitable donations, or 0.2% of their income."

"The Bidens reported earning $319,853 last year, including $71,000 in royalties for his memoir, Promises to Keep: On Life and Politics."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...inancial_N.htm

Wow ... I gave more to charity in both gross numbers and percentages than Biden.
Sep 24, 2012, 12:45 PM
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I agree. Biden's net worth is essentially zero. In fact, he held more liabilities than assets for much of last year, actually rendering his net worth in negative territory. Romney's net worth is in the 100's of $ millions.
You're confusing Biden's finances with his worth as a person....
Sep 24, 2012, 12:51 PM
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I agree. Biden's net worth is essentially zero. In fact, he held more liabilities than assets for much of last year, actually rendering his net worth in negative territory. Romney's net worth is in the 100's of $ millions.
So according to you, this is a model of what we should have running the country? A man that can't even run his own personal finances? I'm sorry, but I'm not buying that. If he can't even handle his own personal finances, how can he possible run the whole country? And he is the next in line for the Presidency?
Sep 24, 2012, 12:51 PM
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Actually when you add in Romney's Church Tithes (which are also charitable contributions) as listed in that link his total is 24.8%

So the comparison appears to be 25% vs 22%

Pretty much the same.
Sep 24, 2012, 12:59 PM
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Not really. When I made $7000 in one year, it was just as easy to give away the same percentage, as when I made $100k.
Really? I made $1900 in 2003 which was a bit more than one month's mortgage. Charities got nothin' that year.


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