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Nov 23, 2003, 03:00 PM
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Do I need to fly Both Ailerons & Rudder to do 3D?

I would like to get into flying 3D but my left hand is nowhere near as coordinated as my right hand. Does 3D flying involve both Rudder & Aileron? Can you fly 3D with just Aileron/Elevator or Rudder/Elevator?


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Nov 23, 2003, 03:33 PM
Pro Bro #495
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Yes. Don't worry about it. It becomes second nature after a while. I'm always trying to use the left stick, even when I'm flying a 3 channel plane.
Nov 23, 2003, 03:49 PM
And You're Not
That's the great thing about flying will finally get to use all the sticks all the time!

I admit I was very weak in rudder skills when I started learning I'm a lot better (still LOTS of room for improvement!!!!!!) but it gives me a sense of being a much more complete RC pilot.

It's a journey, not a destination.
Nov 23, 2003, 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by fwilly
It becomes second nature after a while.
What they don't say, is how long "a while" is..

Originally posted by Jeffery
I admit I was very weak in rudder skills when I started learning I'm a lot better (still LOTS of room for improvement!!!!!!)
Exactly. I built the 3DX because although my Super Diablotin is quite capable, the nut behind the gimbles isn't.. I only have about 10 flight on mine (although at >15 minutes, usually 20+ per flight, that's a LOT more stick time than any other model), I am actually getting close to being able to hover.

I'm not doing this to be able to hover, however, I'm doing it to become a much better all around pilot. Learning to correct the model in a hover is helping in other areas which need tons of improvement..
Nov 23, 2003, 06:52 PM
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It helps to have a durable plane with really bad adverse yaw. That helped me learn upright rudder real fast. Right now, I'm working on getting the rudder right when in an inverted harrier.
Nov 23, 2003, 08:18 PM
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Ailerons, Elevator, Rudder, Throttle are all things you use when you fly 3D.

For hovering ailerons isn't a big deal, and for many, thats all 3D is.

For everything else, ailerons can play a big part in flying.

Nov 24, 2003, 07:28 AM
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I disagree on ailerons not being a big deal for hovering. My 3DX has the 'smaller' ailerons, and it is tough to hold it (prevent torque roll) without massive aileron movement. I am thinking of extending the ailerons to the 'update' size to help here..
Nov 24, 2003, 07:33 AM
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The larger ailerons help. You can also tilt it a little off vertical to help prevent the roll.
Nov 24, 2003, 08:20 AM
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"It's a journey, not a destination."

Man, if only everyone would adopt that motto......our hobby.....and our lives......would be much better off.

You said a mouthfull with that statement !!

Nov 24, 2003, 08:23 PM
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Hovering is quite simple once you learn the basics. I realized as many do that over correcting always messes me up. Just focusing on the canopy and using a little elevator with slight rudder and you can keep it there for days hehehe.