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Old Sep 14, 2012, 09:57 AM
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Thank you Speedy ... that is a great tip ... and also a great thread!

All of my time has been soaked up by working for a livin'. I am ACHING to try out this building technique but I'm not going to start anything new until I finish my Birddog. Its taking every ounce of determination I have in my body ... and you guys posting threads on these beautiful builds ain't making it any easier.

Fortunately, I'm just a couple coats of paint and the decals away from getting her done.

As they said on the Little Rascals, "Get thee behind me Satan ... and DOAN' PUSH!!!"
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Old Sep 15, 2012, 08:09 PM
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Finished Cowl


Finished my cowl and also one for Pete - I'll be doing a tissue/Depron kit for him - the mount of Gefr. Kurt Blumener, Jasta 6:



I used Painters Masking Tape, but had a lot of bleed-under that required touch up using Tamiya Masking Tape (that I should have used to begin with).

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Old Sep 16, 2012, 08:56 AM
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Holly Crap! Gene that looks excellent. I can see they were a ton of work and well thought out to build them and have them look that good...

Well done Sir and my hat is off to you. Love the ID plate very

BTW that GWS prop looks great too.

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Old Sep 16, 2012, 09:52 AM
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BTW that GWS prop looks great too.
Thanks. That's just the ROF pattern temporarily/hastily stuck onto the GWS. I'll likely use a cut down UM Mustang prop...TBD.

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Old Sep 17, 2012, 01:26 AM
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Gene,
I cant recall if its you or Pete or in fact both of you that paint the props to make em look like wood. My question is: does the added weight of the paint and magic marker affect the spin of the prop??? Balance wise??

Watching this build, very interested in trying my hand at salvaging a ROF skin for my next project. Just have to re-install the sim first!!

Regards,
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 07:55 AM
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... [who] paints the props to make em look like wood.
That would be Pete daVinci.

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Old Sep 17, 2012, 08:22 AM
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Nath,

I should balance my props but I don't in these micro birds. It doesn't seem to have much of an effect.
I've got to put a new prop on my reworked E-III ( I replaced the Cessna brick and the Vapor motor/gearbox with a Champ brick and 8mm P-51 motor) I'll be using a P-51 cut down prop.

I will paint it weight the difference and will check the balance. But as I said it really does not have much effect at least from the flying I've been doing.

I first lightly sand the prop then brush on flat white acrylic paint, then brush on Testors Model Masters Wood,(too lazy to airbrush) then use a wide Sharpie permanent marker (brown) then I seal with a coat of either yellow or orange clear Tamiya paint.

Pete

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Old Sep 17, 2012, 09:15 AM
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I'll be using a P-51 cut down prop.
One of these days I'll try printed tissue on a prop. Plan is to apply it with clear Minwax. Will be interesting to see how the prop performs, but I don't anticipate any adverse effects.

Pete, you may not see much impact from not balancing the props because, I suspect, you don't need full RPM most of the time you fly these slow WWI crates.

I always balance my props, especially if I cut them down. It's a simple, quick procedure and pays dividends in reducing vibration. Easiest way to check on an out of balance prop is to watch for any vibration transmitted to the wheels.

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Old Sep 17, 2012, 12:02 PM
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Next step is to form and attach a CF leading edge, make a trough to house the aileron "cable" (using Pete's method of bead wire inside Teflon tubing), and finally ... apply the tissue. Hopefully will have the wing done in a couple of days.

Gene K
Can you please tell me where I might find this info/thread about the bead wire aileron setup?
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 02:03 PM
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Odd,
Here's some info I posted on my Micro NP-11
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...port+11&page=3

I used CA teflon tube from my LHS and the push rod is 7strand nylon coated
.015 " bead wire (from craft store).

You can also search Start of Micro Mosquito FB or Possible Micro Nieuport 25 as I did the same in those builds.

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Old Sep 17, 2012, 06:09 PM
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Nath,

Here's how I do my props. It's easy and looks ok. As I wrote: lightly sand first, then flat white, wood, marker and seal with clear yellow or orange. That's it.

From my old Speed 400 days (I have lots of old motors) I took two curved magents between two tall cans and a small diameter wire and presto my resonalble micro prop balance tool.

No real weight gain at least not on my scale. Hub and decals to be added later. Test flew the reworked E-III new Champ brick and P-51 motor/gearbox vs the Cessna & Vapor motor/gearbox and now with this new cut down P-51 prop she really flys super. Just a cool plane to watch and fly.

Pete
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Old Sep 17, 2012, 07:58 PM
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[The E.III is] Just a cool plane to watch and fly.
Great to see Paul the Canadian posting some videos of your group flys. Hope he gets some of that beautiful Little Fokker E.III in action.

Nice prop painting tutorial, by the way.

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Old Sep 17, 2012, 11:42 PM
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Great to see Paul the Canadian posting some videos of your group flys. Hope he gets some of that beautiful Little Fokker E.III in action.

Nice prop painting tutorial, by the way.

Gene K
I agree Gene,
Thanks for the tutorial Pete. It will be something I will definitely do when I get around to making a WWI bird.

Nath.
Old Sep 18, 2012, 05:55 PM
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Guns done except for crash pads, ammo trays and exhausts tubes.

Jackets by Cdr. Jin

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Old Sep 18, 2012, 08:20 PM
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Hey Pete my intel guys in the underground were "processing " my videos and they accidentally deleted some of it. (Dumb guys) so I need to go back out to the front lines to get sneak shots of the German's new secret planes, know any times they are flying in your area? I can get the C/O to make some sort of arrangement to meet up with you and we can hunt down the Huns.


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