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Aug 07, 2012, 10:00 AM
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Vela One Meter Sailboat 2.4GHz


Any info on this boat? Would it be a decent "entry level" boat, or should I be looking elsewhere?
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Aug 07, 2012, 10:47 AM
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VELA Information


I'd suggest you use the "search" function on this or the other R/C sailing sites as there have been several threads already devoted to the VELA. You will find ample information to answer most of your questions.
Aug 07, 2012, 10:48 AM
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https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show....php?t=1327983
Their is some good info in this thread.
Aug 07, 2012, 03:38 PM
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Any info on this boat? Would it be a decent "entry level" boat, or should I be looking elsewhere?
Happy with mine.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...327983&page=53


Steve
Aug 08, 2012, 12:13 AM
Taking care of the pond.
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Vela is not a One Meter sailboat. It does not fit any class.
Hull Length: 40 in (1015 mm)

U. S. ONE METER CLASS Rules

1.0 HULL:

LOA (including bumper, if used) 39 3/8" maximum, 39" minimum, mono-hull.
Aug 08, 2012, 10:35 AM
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Any info on this boat? Would it be a decent "entry level" boat, or should I be looking elsewhere?
The word "decent" is relative to whom ever is using it I suppose. If you have taken time to read the suggested threads and posts on the Vela, you may have formed an opinion as to this boat being a "decent" entry level boat.

There are many boats to pick from and most of us have our favorites and would like you to select our personal favorite - perhaps we could explore what is important to most of us when we get into something new such as RC sailing.

Most would like a boat that is priced attractively for our budget and or within our perceived value for such a thing. Next might be easy to set up and to use so that we are encouraged by our choice rather than turned off by it! Another factor might be how easy it is to transport to the pond or lake as well storing it. Another might be do I want to race my boat? Some do and most don't, but if you are at all interested in racing you can check out the AMYA web site for a list of boats that have established classes and where in your area there might be a group or club that races regularly. Then check out what those boys are sailing - pay them a visit and they will most likely give you a chance to sail one of their boats -

I purchased a Vela when they were first released - I liked the colorful graphics and it's sleek lines. Some don't like them, I did. I have by some folk's standards a lot of RC boats, so I guess I am not a novice at this point.

Having that been said, I returned mine for a few reasons, one of which was a large defect in the paint and globs of adhesives in the bottom of the boat.
I was pleased with the radio and other than the blemishes it was a very nice looking boat.

Now after time has passed and lots of Vela's have been sold there has been much written on this boat, some good some not so much. The point is there are a few issues that a Vela is born with that may or will need to be addressed at some point. Thus my own conclusion that there are/is better choices.

In the same price range or a little less there is the time tested Nirvana ll - most knowledgeable RC sailors would consider this boat to be the best if not one of the best boats to start with. They meet all the criteria I mentioned above and beyond that, they will last for years without any repairs - I have owned 5 Nirvana's and each time I sell one, I end up buying another one - I just missed sailing my Nirvana with my friends.

There are a few other boats to consider in the RTR group: Westward 18 and the Serenity - both from Proboat/Horizon Hobbies. Another venerable RTR is the latest version of the Kyosho Fairwind lll (best price I have found is $359.99) If you are more into kits then one of the best boats out there is the Micro Magic (can get a little pricey but comes as a kit or RTR now. Another fun kit and good little sailor is the Thunder Tiger Victoria - they also offer larger boats worth a look - Voyager and it's fancier brothers the China team and Fly Emirates both 1 meter boats and come in kit form - Check out Tower Hobbies sailboats page on line. Ah, one more less well know but worthy of your consideration the Blackstar line of boats here is a link to their site. http://blackstaryacht.com/Blackstar_23_OS0V.html

I could go on but have get to some "honey do's" - or I'll be in trouble for sure.
The tip here is to do some good research before you buy.

There are many boats to choose from so take your time. Oh, you will mostly likely come across the HobbyKing.com line of boats, all at very attractive prices (Monsoon, Phantom and others) They have their place and can be good choices for some. There are lots of threads on these boats and you will read some good reports and some not so much.

Take your time - that is half the fun of getting into this hobby and the research will be helpful as you move forward.

Enjoy
Boomer
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Aug 08, 2012, 10:48 AM
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Novice1100 is there a local club near by, your best bet would be to go out and see what the local club sails.Maybe even get behind the sticks and sail a little before you make a choice.
Plenty of choices out there, some better than others and here on RC Groups you will find everyone has an opinion.


Check out http://www.theamya.org/clubs/#NY
Aug 08, 2012, 08:22 PM
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Agree with Boomer's comments - the choice is vast....

A couple of things you perhaps might consider:
1) Have a look at what is being sailed locally - because sailing with someone else is fun...

2) Have a think about how much you want to spend - you can get a HobbyKing boat plus radio gear plus batteries plus charger for about $200 all up including freight. At the other end of the scale you can spend some thousands on the top end boats.

3) Consider the areas nearby that you can sail - if you have a smaller / shallower pond, not much point in a big yacht with deep keel. On the other hand if you only have ocean or estuary with lots of wind then a small boat (eg 600mm) would be difficult to sail in rougher water with stronger wind.

4) Transport - consider how you might get the boat from home to water - smaller boats transport easily fully rigged in a medium car, larger boats you may have to rig at the pond edge, making it tricky to get the rigging right each time and frustrating tangles!!!

I currently own three cheap chinese yachts, smallest is 500mm (Discovery 500), largest is 1 metre (Hurricane 1000) - they are great fun but these cheap ones usually need a few minor alterations to get them going well....

I bought a set of Vela sails for my Hurricane recently - excellent quality....

Hope this helps....
Feb 10, 2018, 09:26 AM
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Slowpolk here. I bit the bullet in bought a Vela 1 meter. Nice boat, very tall. I'm in Connecticut and waiting for the ponds to thaw. YouTube has nice videos of this boat sailing. I bought the boat for 350. I found out it can qualify for the open class in the AMYA If enough people sign up, need at least 20 boats to form a class. Anybody in Connecticut have a VELA? First timer RC'ing.
Feb 10, 2018, 02:24 PM
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Did you read the Vela thread all the way through? The Vela is an attractive boat for sure. They look nice and color sells for sure.
I am sorry to be so candid to a new owner, but if you can return it now before you use it, you'd be ahead. I like you was attracted to this boat because of it's looks. Once I had it and began to learn about it's sailing characteristics and other issues inherent in them, I returned it for a full refund.
There are many other boats out there that provide a vastly better sailing experience and in the same price range. To name just two there is the Seawind and the DF95. Posted pictures below.
The Vela's have had manufacturing issues - well published in the Vela thread. Deck separations and deck fittings pulling out, problems with full sail travel. I don't know if those issues have been fully addressed - one would hope so!
The issue that is a design issue is how it sails. It is very slow to accelerate, likes to heel over in very light winds, strong winds over power the boat. Rudder is too small for the amount of sail area. Again, sorry to be so blunt, but these are well known characteristics. There are a few guys that have worked their magic on theirs and are able to sail them to their satisfaction.
Trying to start a new class for any boat has historically been a challenge, let a lone a boat that is not flying off the shelves of hobby shops.
The big exceptions have been the DF 65 and DF 95 that have established themselves as the "darlings" of the RC sailboat world. Years past the Nirvana's enjoyed a big success story. Popular boats are the Micro Magic, CR 914, Seawind, IMO's. Soling 1M's, IDOM's etc. You can go to the AMYA website to learn more about the different classes http://www.theamya.org/index.php
I am not suggesting the Vela is garbage, just that there are better choices for similar dollars available to you that would be easier to get involved in racing with.
My opinion is just that. Welcome to the hobby! Regardless it is great fun.
Boomer
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Feb 11, 2018, 01:13 AM
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Boomer, I agree with some of the points you make. Vela has a few flaws, but nothing insurmountable. Mine had deck separation issues, and fixed that and have had no further structural issues. Now the sail servo it comes with is not up to the job at all, but that can be fixed.
I enjoyed sailing my Vela a lot and think it is a good sailing boat overall. Yes in more than eight to ten, it is over canvased and could use less sail area. There are other choices out there, but this is a good boat that I think deserves a fair shake. Ryan
Feb 11, 2018, 11:34 AM
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Hi Steve. Yeah I just bought one myself. I was wondering if you've done any alterations to the boat like add to the rigging or batteries or anything like that. I'm waiting for the ice to melt here in Connecticut. How's the distance on that tactic transmitter?
Feb 12, 2018, 10:29 AM
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There are a number of clubs racing r/c sailboats in Conn. Unfirtunately, for all the reasons discussed, none sail the Vela. Ideally, you should contact a local club and sail what is already established. Sailing Junky who posts here from time to time is very plugged into the Conn. sailing scene, you should try and pm him.
Feb 12, 2018, 07:15 PM
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where are you located in CT Slowpoke?
Hand full of clubs in CT. Not to say you cannot start your own club sailing Velas but starting out, you might gain some helpful insights from folks who have started just as you have.

SJ
Feb 13, 2018, 05:38 PM
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Location /clubs


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where are you located in CT Slowpoke?
Hand full of clubs in CT. Not to say you cannot start your own club sailing Velas but starting out, you might gain some helpful insights from folks who have started just as you have.

SJ
Hi, I live in East Hartford Connecticut not too far from Deep River where the dry pants model yacht club is. I believe I was talking to Brian J down there. I'm not sure but I think he said he had a spare CR 914 that I could use to try it out. I like competition so this might work out. I do have some concerns about the model coming from the factory of the 914 with defects. Do you know if this is normal? Fortunately my wife is getting a little bit excited about the RC'ing. Great in my favor.


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